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Not necessarily true, i know entry level engineers earning well above $100k in the Bay Area who are barely getting by because they are paying $5-$6/mo in rent alone which is post-tax.
Unless these entry level engineers have families, there's no good reason to be paying $5-6k a month for rent, you can easily find a decent place of your own for under $4k, even $3k if you're patient.
Why we built our core engineering team outside of the SF Bay Area
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#23Come to Salt Lake City. We even have absurd branding to lure you "silicon slopes!" There are a few SF organizations with satellite offices here. I've worked for one, have friends working for others. It's a pretty decent arrangement. You can get a team setup here for the cost of a single employee in the bay (especially when you factor in real estate.) Hell, maybe more. Shit, some of us will take pay cuts to avoid work…
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But the salary differential between top engineer in the Bay Area vs. top engineer in the Midwest is more like 2-3x than 10-15x.
OK, it's not 2-3x. Especially if we're talking salary. Salary for a top individual contributor engineer in the Bay Area (full stack), outside of specific skillsets like ML/AI, will top out around $200k. Midwest, someone with the same skillset would probably make $125-150k.
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#25Why is this happening? (a) Lot of companies are opening up offices in India and willing to pay higher to set up the team quickly; (b) The VC finding scenario is as crazy as it exists in Silicon Valley. SoftBank is a global firm :)
It’s not as straightforward to build a 10x engineering team in India. Sure, it’s probably cheaper than Bay Area but you need to consider the overall cost of communication, speed of process, especially for a startup.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless these entry level engineers have families, there's no good reason to be paying $5-6k a month for rent, you can easily find a decent place of your own for under $4k, even $3k if you're patient.
As someone living in the Midwest, those numbers are mind-boggling.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless these entry level engineers have families, there's no good reason to be paying $5-6k a month for rent, you can easily find a decent place of your own for under $4k, even $3k if you're patient.
As someone living in the Midwest, those numbers are mind-boggling.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless these entry level engineers have families, there's no good reason to be paying $5-6k a month for rent, you can easily find a decent place of your own for under $4k, even $3k if you're patient.
As someone living in the Midwest, those numbers are mind-boggling.
my total monthly expenses are roughly 3500/month so I am able to save almost 50% of my post tax income.
Re: Why we built our core engineering team outside of the SF Bay Area
#29Come to Salt Lake City. We even have absurd branding to lure you "silicon slopes!" There are a few SF organizations with satellite offices here. I've worked for one, have friends working for others. It's a pretty decent arrangement. You can get a team setup here for the cost of a single employee in the bay (especially when you factor in real estate.) Hell, maybe more. Shit, some of us will take pay cuts to avoid work…
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#30Edit: fixed punctuation