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Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by andrewmunsell »

yalogin wrote: post #19

The main info is missing in this PR release though. Is this a hardware upgrade or a software update? Looks like a hw upgrade, if so are they upgrading all their charging stations? Or did they already do it? How long is the upgrade going to take and how much will it cost?

It's a completely new hardware design with the power cabinets now using industrial inverters. The old v2 cabinet used a bunch of Model S inverters. The power posts (the white things with the cables on them) are the same as v2 externally, but not internally.

They're not retrofitting stations, but all new stations (other than Urban Superchargers, which they will still install in urban locations) will be v3 hardware.

For the cars, accepting the higher charger rate is 100% software in Model 3 (because the cabling and battery already support it). Model S & X will probably need thicker DC cables to the battery to support the 250 kW peak charging rate.

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Post by clouddrover »

yalogin wrote: post #13

This really speaks to the brilliance of Musk and Tesla. Any other company would be happy selling Model 3s and working hard to provide incentives to sell more. Tesla identities that the bottleneck for all these cars is the charging network and simultaneously works on improving that. Really impressed with the way they think.

I think it's more about trying to catch up to the CCS charging networks which already have 350 kW chargers (Ionity, Electrify America, EVgo, FastNed). It'd be better if Tesla adopted the CCS standard for all their cars. The European version of the Model 3 has a CCS plug so it's already the case that some Teslas have it.

I can fuel my ICE car at any fueling station. I should be able to charge my electric car at any charging station. Minimizing the number of different charging standards will help achieve that.

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by kregasaurusrex »

By how much would using the supercharging feature reduce the overall lifetime of the batteries? Lithium cells aren't immune to the memory effect, which would only be shortened with the high heat associated with pushing a significant amount of power through the car.

The very first issue of Popular Science magazine I received as a kid had the Tesla when it was still the modified Lotus Elise with the clickbait-y title along the lines of 'Could a sports car powered by laptop batteries be the next generation of cars?'. Kudos to all the teams at Tesla who made this a reality!

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by kylec »

colmmacc wrote: post #17

Tesla Model S owner here. By choosing spots and times strategically I've gotten nearly 400MPH charging at the existing stations and the difference it makes to convenience is amazing. Super looking forward to 1000MPH! At that rate I can likely make it to Squamish BC, from Seattle, and back, with only one ~20 minute charge in between. That's still about 4x or 5x for the time I would spend filling an ICE car, but gettin…

You might need to get a Model 3/Y if you want to hit 1000mi/hr charging. The Model S likely won't be capable of it.

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by cma »

The much bigger news is they completely walked back FSD (full self-driving) into something that you have to monitor at all times by changing the description on their website.

The release of a proprietary charger is somehow completely overshadowing that news.

It's changed from driving itself around in a ride hailing network to earn you money while you sleep, to now making you always be in the car and pay attention and make corrections, essentially turning all purchasers into unpaid neural network training practitioners.

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by mixmastamyk »

andrewmunsell wrote: post #18
askafriend wrote: post #14

For now, I can't imagine my next car being anything but a Tesla.

I have an i3 now and after my lease is up, I will absolutely either get a Model 3 or Y. There's just no other electric car comparable that will allow you to road-trip without worrying about charger access.

Is privacy an option yet?

Re: Tesla – Introducing V3 Supercharging

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Post by kylec »

clouddrover wrote: post #22
yalogin wrote: post #13

This really speaks to the brilliance of Musk and Tesla. Any other company would be happy selling Model 3s and working hard to provide incentives to sell more. Tesla identities that the bottleneck for all these cars is the charging network and simultaneously works on improving that. Really impressed with the way they think.

I think it's more about trying to catch up to the CCS charging networks which already have 350 kW chargers (Ionity, Electrify America, EVgo, FastNed). It'd be better if Tesla adopted the CCS standard for all their cars. The European version of the Model 3 has a CCS plug so it's already the case that some Teslas have it. I can fuel my ICE car at any fueling station. I should be able to charge my electric car at any ch…

I'm not opposed to standardization, but the CCS connector is big and ugly. I'm kind of glad Tesla doesn't use it here in the US.
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