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World's largest bee ‘rediscovered’ after 38 years

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Re: World's largest bee ‘rediscovered’ after 38 years

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It looks about 4 times its length.

By that argument, the White House is 90% of the size of the Empire State Building.

Think thats a pretty typical way of describing animals though, by a single dimension, rather than volume. If the ESB and WH were animals you'd naturally compare heights rather than widths.

Re: World's largest bee ‘rediscovered’ after 38 years

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Specimens sold to collectors for several thousand pounds, don't think they're going to survive long unless some enterprising "poacher" breeds them.

I wouldn't bet on a thick order book.

The first one sold for 7,000 pounds; the second one sold for 3,200. Continuing that trend would mean an infinite number of bees would sell for less than 14,000 pounds total.

There just aren't that many rich bee collectors.

Re: World's largest bee ‘rediscovered’ after 38 years

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It's very interesting how this bee relies on termite mounds to live in and specific kinds of tree resin to build termite free sections. Since there's a finite number of termite mounds on the couple islands it lives on there's not many of these bees in the world, nor will there ever be. Also interesting that the bees, being near extinct, are worth a lot of money to collectors at auctions, and that the people who live on this island have very few sources of outside income.

Re: World's largest bee ‘rediscovered’ after 38 years

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What is it about this particular environment that allows this mutation (i.e., larger in size) to survive here, but no where else in the world? Also, in theory, could it be even larger, or is there some limit to how large a bee could be?

Oh, Is the damned planet earth. Is doing this things everywhere since millions of years. Bigger, faster and with more teeth.

There is a limit to how large an insect can be. Couldn't breath effectively with the body mass of a retriever (fortunately).

Re: World's largest bee ‘rediscovered’ after 38 years

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A nuclear war can only be fought to the point where nobody has the capacity to keep fighting. You can't actually obliterate the planet. The global climate would be altered but it wouldn't be close to the worst the earth has seen. Insects, plants, rodents, and humans will all almost certainly survive a nuclear war. Animals in the wild are largely unaffected by high levels of background radiation because they don't liv…

AI could keep fighting, and replicating more weapons, long after humans are dead.

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Re: World's largest bee ‘rediscovered’ after 38 years

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post #25

What is it about this particular environment that allows this mutation (i.e., larger in size) to survive here, but no where else in the world? Also, in theory, could it be even larger, or is there some limit to how large a bee could be?

Oh, Is the damned planet earth. Is doing this things everywhere since millions of years. Bigger, faster and with more teeth. There is a limit to how large an insect can be. Couldn't breath effectively with the body mass of a retriever (fortunately).

I remember reading somewhere that sometime in the prehistoric era when earth was more oxygen rich, giant insects were abound.

https://earthsky.org/earth/why-were-prehistoric-insects-so-h...

Re: World's largest bee ‘rediscovered’ after 38 years

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What is it about this particular environment that allows this mutation (i.e., larger in size) to survive here, but no where else in the world? Also, in theory, could it be even larger, or is there some limit to how large a bee could be?

Insect size tends to be limited by oxygen availabiltiy (since they don't have lungs, and must absorb oxygen passively). Hence why the biggest insects are found in oxygen rich rainforests.

Re: World's largest bee ‘rediscovered’ after 38 years

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What is it about this particular environment that allows this mutation (i.e., larger in size) to survive here, but no where else in the world? Also, in theory, could it be even larger, or is there some limit to how large a bee could be?

Insect size tends to be limited by oxygen availabiltiy (since they don't have lungs, and must absorb oxygen passively). Hence why the biggest insects are found in oxygen rich rainforests.

I know insects used to be much bigger when the atmosphere had more oxygen.

But I'm very skeptical that there is more oxygen in rain forests. For one thing, I don't think they actually produce more oxygen than they consume, since there is an equilibrium of plant mass being created and being consumed. Also, the planet is quite windy.

Still, I'm interested in seeing any evidence to the contrary!

Re: World's largest bee ‘rediscovered’ after 38 years

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Do you really think we can create a greater extinction event than the ones the insects have survived? And yes, that includes some serious climate changes.

All-out nuclear war?

The impact which ended the era of the dinosaurs had an estimated energy greater than all the nuclear weapons in the world. Granted, it was concentrated in one area. But the result was thought to have effected the entire planet, with the sun being blocked out for several years, resulting in the collapse of plant life and drop in temperatures. The forests around the world may have also ignited after ejecta from the impact fell back to earth, temporarily superheating the atmosphere.
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