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Re: Travis CI Is Laying Off Senior Engineer Staff

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I hope no one minds a quick plug... sourcehut has a build service with a comparible UX to Travis CI, but more powerful in some respects. https://sourcehut.org Get in touch if you want some tips on moving from Travis to builds.sr.ht.

I wish I could hire some of the recently unemployed, but I just don't have the budget. If you want me to circulate your resumes in Philly, feel free to email them to me. Best of luck.

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There was a time when I wanted to use Travis CI but the pricing was too much. Then, CircleCI came along with a free plan, and when the time came to upgrade, we did it so easily since we’re already invested in the platform. I wish Travis CI they did this from the start since I like their platform and had some open source projects there and again could have easily upgraded. This is where the fremium model would have wo…

Huh? Travis has had a free level for a while (I've been using it for my libraries on github).

Re: Travis CI Is Laying Off Senior Engineer Staff

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Honestly I'm astonished at the speed with which this happened, given the recency of their acquisition. Seems amazingly cynical of their new parent company.

PE firms are there for profit. To make profit you cut costs or raise revenue. Guess which is faster?

Re: Travis CI Is Laying Off Senior Engineer Staff

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maybe they wouldn't have been laid off if they took themselves and their work more seriously? I mean honestly, looking at the team page at https://about.travis-ci.com/team/ , we have titles such as Mermaid on board, Tyranjasaurus Specs, Tortilla Builder, Sausage Dog Wrangler, Customer Avocado, Head Catwoman, and Conjurer of Avocado Patronuses

I think the childish names are artifact of the immaturity of the codebro culture overall. I realize that's not a popular opinion.

Not everything has to emulate the old-fashioned, Buttoned-Down, "3-piece business suit + briefcase" IBM Circa 1972, but the silliness that passes for modern IT has gone much too far the other way, IMO.

I think it's an insight into the mentality of the builders, and it doesn't speak well for them. Honestly, it's a little embarrassing to try and have a conversation with the C-level, investors, MDs, PhD researchers sometimes, due to the plethora of silly names more appropriate in Romper Room than the Boardroom.

Re: Travis CI Is Laying Off Senior Engineer Staff

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post #23

There was a time when I wanted to use Travis CI but the pricing was too much. Then, CircleCI came along with a free plan, and when the time came to upgrade, we did it so easily since we’re already invested in the platform. I wish Travis CI they did this from the start since I like their platform and had some open source projects there and again could have easily upgraded. This is where the fremium model would have wo…

Huh? Travis has had a free level for a while (I've been using it for my libraries on github).

Only for open source repo's. For those who have to choose a CI for business use that may not be usable.

Re: Travis CI Is Laying Off Senior Engineer Staff

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Not too shocking, unfortunately, from discussion when the acquisition was annoucned (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18978251), we knew that this was the kind of private equity firm that makes money by buying products with existing revenue streams, and then _not_ investing in them. (And the corollary, laying off staff you don't need if you're not going to be investing in it, obviously helps your profit margin).

This is kind of how private equity works.

It is sad, I had really liked travis as a product, I don't expect I will be able to continue to.

Travis is just _so easy_ to set up for my basic ruby gem and Rails app projects (I don't want to spend time on setting up CI, I just want it to be done), as well as free for open source -- none of it's competitors have seemed to give me that when I looked before.

Travis, by offering an absolutely brain-dead setup, and giving it away free to open source, really created a revolution in actually doing CI for open source, at least in ruby. Everyone's doing CI now, when few open source projects were before in ruby. That anyone offers free CI for open source at all is probably due to the need to compete with travis. I wonder if it'll stick around.

Re: Travis CI Is Laying Off Senior Engineer Staff

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From the tweet [0] it seems there is going to be a huge tech debt. I don't know how Idera is planning to expand upon the acquisition after letting go people like this. > Some know the skinny on dozens of different open source projects and ecosystems, others understand run time and dep mgmt for like 17 languages and even more tooling, and automated image mastering to handle it all. > Others are rewriting what it means…

> I don't know how Idera is planning to expand upon the acquisition...

I would guess they are not, which is consistent with how they seem to have treated past acquisitions.

I am not sure if a developer-focused integration-dependent tool like CI can continue to consistently bring in a revenue stream without getting much development attention... but I think they're going to find out.

Re: Travis CI Is Laying Off Senior Engineer Staff

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I called it. The money men have praises Idera for their new and innovative approach to software development. Also know has fixed cost devlopement to the lowest bider. If you want stop this type of practice please don't sign multi year contracts. That is stage two. This is where they get their value. Without the contracts they can't use it as leverage to take out huge debts -- where they get their value from. If the f…

> The money men have praises Idera for their new and innovative approach to software development.

Buying something that's already been developed and then not developing it further is a 'new and innovative approach to software development'?

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