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SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Post by toomuchtodo »

radar wrote: post #20
CrazyCatDog wrote: post #5

Two innovations have revolutionized my life—CPAP and Sleepyhead. I volunteered to do a sleep study at the famous Stanford Sleep Clinic some 15 years ago hoping that they would tell me I’m superhuman and don’t need sleep. They came back and told me that I sleep very poorly. CPAP machines are (finally) wonderful, but the manufacturers don’t share any of the data that their machines collect other than basics like hours…

Curious; what are the perils of drinking wine with dinner?

Drinking alcohol prior to sleep can cause poor sleep quality.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4666864/

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Post by cabaalis »

jonathankoren wrote: post #15

From the linked blog post: > Let it be known that the hosts of the ApneaBoard forum have finally succeeded in their efforts to hijack the SleepyHead project. Sounds like it's not "shutting down" as much as forked, and he's upset. Also it looks like the reason why it's getting forked is because critical bugs went out. People are relying on this to live, and he's treating it like a hobby -- because it is to him. His po…

> People are relying on this to live

As much as I want free software and all that, it seems like medical devices have the best cause for DRM and all the protections it affords.

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Post by Hydraulix989 »

iamwil wrote: post #13

> If there is one tiny bit of hard learned advice I can leave behind from all this, it would be: Friends don’t let friends release full blown complex applications under the GPL – Keep it for hacks or corporate backed stuff. Anyone know what the story is behind this? Is it that GPL is hard to monetize?

Yes, because it's an infectious license. Stated roughly, anything that touches GPL code must also be licensed as GPL.

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Post by lima »

tendencydriven wrote: post #14

Read into this more, here http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t174687/SleepyHead-Project... and here http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-SleepyHead-version-1... Its not as black and white as it seems

Well, they should've called their fork something other than "SleepyHead". From what I could gather from these threads:

- Maintainer disappeared for a while, people wanted their fixes merged.

- ApneaBoard community made a "1.1.0" release of "SleepyHead" without the author's approval, rather than forking it and calling it something else.

- Maintainer unhappy about them using his trademark without his permission.

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Post by lima »

jonathankoren wrote: post #15

From the linked blog post: > Let it be known that the hosts of the ApneaBoard forum have finally succeeded in their efforts to hijack the SleepyHead project. Sounds like it's not "shutting down" as much as forked, and he's upset. Also it looks like the reason why it's getting forked is because critical bugs went out. People are relying on this to live, and he's treating it like a hobby -- because it is to him. His po…

> The code is GPLed[1]. It sounds like there were other people willing to contribute. The code goes on, without him.

That's not how it works - other people are free to fork the code, but the trademark is owned by the original author.

This is one of the reasons why open source foundations exist - they hold the trademark and decide on how it can be used. For instance, CNCF or Apache Foundation holds the trademark for its member projects - you can't call your Prometheus fork "Prometheus" and use their logo etc.

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Post by AlotOfReading »

cabaalis wrote: post #22
jonathankoren wrote: post #15

From the linked blog post: > Let it be known that the hosts of the ApneaBoard forum have finally succeeded in their efforts to hijack the SleepyHead project. Sounds like it's not "shutting down" as much as forked, and he's upset. Also it looks like the reason why it's getting forked is because critical bugs went out. People are relying on this to live, and he's treating it like a hobby -- because it is to him. His po…

> People are relying on this to live As much as I want free software and all that, it seems like medical devices have the best cause for DRM and all the protections it affords.

Speaking as an embedded developer (though not currently in healthcare), no device should be sold without the manufacturer's firmware. With that said, there are plenty of cases where the hardware is fine, but the software doesn't support things the customer needs for a whole variety of reasons. I don't see why people should be protected from themselves after the sale. Releasing more firmware as open source would be a good step towards cleaning up some of the hazmat-grade codebases out there as well.

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Post by quasse »

dmuth wrote: post #10

I have no knowledge of this issue, but there seems to be more background here: http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t174687/SleepyHead-Project... First post is by Jedimark, which goes into more detail, and there are some comments with other sides of the story.

For those who have only read the parent blogpost, I would suggest reading at least the first page of this thread. There certainly seems to be another side to this story.

The author seems to take any input or effort from others to improve his open source and GPL licensed project as a personal attack.

If you're an open source project maintainer who has an ever growing foes list of people who develop forks of your project or make suggestions you don't like, you might want to re-evaluate yourself.

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Post by [deleted] »

cabaalis wrote: post #22
jonathankoren wrote: post #15

From the linked blog post: > Let it be known that the hosts of the ApneaBoard forum have finally succeeded in their efforts to hijack the SleepyHead project. Sounds like it's not "shutting down" as much as forked, and he's upset. Also it looks like the reason why it's getting forked is because critical bugs went out. People are relying on this to live, and he's treating it like a hobby -- because it is to him. His po…

> People are relying on this to live As much as I want free software and all that, it seems like medical devices have the best cause for DRM and all the protections it affords.

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Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Post by okmokmz »

goshx wrote: post #16

His work will be missed. It sucks that it came down to this and it reminds me of how many entitled toxic pricks exist out there just to make the work of those voluntarily trying to make the world a better place harder. It's sad that they've won this time, but his wife and daughter won big time. If you are reading this, thank you sincerely and I hope you find joy in your future endeavors.

>how many entitled toxic pricks exist out there just to make the work of those voluntarily trying to make the world a better place harder. It's sad that they've won this time

While I generally agree with this sentiment, based on what I've read I don't believe that is what happened here. The rantings and ramblings posted by Mark really do sound like he may be struggling with a paranoid personality disorder. During a period where he was seemingly absent and unresponsive the community decided to continue to work on the project and try to iron out some bugs. As far as I can tell no one tried to hijack his project or monetize the work.

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Post by [deleted] »

lima wrote: post #25
jonathankoren wrote: post #15

From the linked blog post: > Let it be known that the hosts of the ApneaBoard forum have finally succeeded in their efforts to hijack the SleepyHead project. Sounds like it's not "shutting down" as much as forked, and he's upset. Also it looks like the reason why it's getting forked is because critical bugs went out. People are relying on this to live, and he's treating it like a hobby -- because it is to him. His po…

> The code is GPLed[1]. It sounds like there were other people willing to contribute. The code goes on, without him. That's not how it works - other people are free to fork the code , but the trademark is owned by the original author. This is one of the reasons why open source foundations exist - they hold the trademark and decide on how it can be used. For instance, CNCF or Apache Foundation holds the trademark for…

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