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Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

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This is pretty fantastic. I travel around to universities with the Yahoo! HackU program and have had a heck of a time teaching students ruby and the rails framework from scratch. This is going to make it SOO much easier. :D

As far as the labs thing goes, this feels like the future of interactive learning.

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

#22
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Rails is very easy to set up. Easier than any other software for programmers I've used. 1. Install Ruby with your package manager or with the installer for Windows (that's just download, next next next, done). 2. In your terminal: `gem install rails`

I guess you never really tried to install a full dev environment for Rails on Windows...

What constitutes a full dev environment?

- Some kind of database: easy

- Editor: easy

- Version control: easy

I guess you have never tried to build LLVM on Windows if you think that's hard ;)

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

#23

This is a wonderful idea. Every time I try to get someone started with Rails, I sent them to the Rails Guides and warn them that "getting Rails up and running in the hardest part." Being able to have someone jump straight into videos and interactive prompts from their browser is going to be so much better...

getting rails up and running was for me the big dealbreaker when i first looked at it 5+ years ago. this is an excellent idea by gregg and the gang at envylabs though

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Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

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This is a wonderful idea. Every time I try to get someone started with Rails, I sent them to the Rails Guides and warn them that "getting Rails up and running in the hardest part." Being able to have someone jump straight into videos and interactive prompts from their browser is going to be so much better...

getting rails up and running was for me the big dealbreaker when i first looked at it 5+ years ago. this is an excellent idea by gregg and the gang at envylabs though

It has gotten a little easier since…

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

#25
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I guess you never really tried to install a full dev environment for Rails on Windows...

What constitutes a full dev environment? - Some kind of database: easy - Editor: easy - Version control: easy I guess you have never tried to build LLVM on Windows if you think that's hard ;)

No for real, try to install SQLite/Spork/Autotest/Rspec. It isn't that easy when you are a noob who only want to start to learn how to dev.

Personnaly I was so sick and tired to get everyday a new problem when I wanted to install a gem that I setup a VM with Ubuntu and I launch it when I want to dev. Ubuntu is "user friendly"-ier than Windos for ONE thing setup a dev environment.

And as nobody dev on Rails under Windows it's very hard to find help or good tutorials when you encounter a bug :(

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

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Rails is very easy to set up. Easier than any other software for programmers I've used. 1. Install Ruby with your package manager or with the installer for Windows (that's just download, next next next, done). 2. In your terminal: `gem install rails`

I guess you never really tried to install a full dev environment for Rails on Windows...

MRI still sucks on Windows. If you HAVE to use Windows, you'd better off using JRuby.

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

#27
post #15

This is a wonderful idea. Every time I try to get someone started with Rails, I sent them to the Rails Guides and warn them that "getting Rails up and running in the hardest part." Being able to have someone jump straight into videos and interactive prompts from their browser is going to be so much better...

Rails is very easy to set up. Easier than any other software for programmers I've used. 1. Install Ruby with your package manager or with the installer for Windows (that's just download, next next next, done). 2. In your terminal: `gem install rails`

You had a good experience. Lots of people don't. Getting the environment set up took me hours, and I'm a programmer. First I installed Ruby with my distro's package manager. Then I followed the instructions in the book and installed gem from the RubyGems website. Uhoh, not supposed to do that anymore, Ruby comes with a different version of gem. The new Rails website tells me I need a different version of Ruby, the one my distro installed doesn't work with Rails 3. Remove Ruby, try to remove the rubygems-I-shouldn't-install-myself, start over. Install the latest Ruby, then rails from the gem. Try to install some gems I will need, they won't compile. Ruby was compiled without support for some library. Go find, compile and install that library, then recompile Ruby with that feature (after researching how to compile specific libraries into it), and retry installing the gem. OK, on to the next gem, which needs another missing library. How did Ruby even compile if all these necessary libraries weren't there? Continue like this for hours until I finally have Rails and the few gems I'll need working and can see the default page on a web server.

Simply following your two step instructions on any of my servers would not create a working RoR setup.

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

#28
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Love it, but I can't shake the feeling that the people who I want to show this to would not dig the zombies vibe. Maybe I just hang around too many people who do Real Serious Business (TM) programming. :) It's neat as hell though.

And some people don't enjoy the CHUNKY BACON(!!!) vibe either, but it didn't stop _why from being awesome.

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

#29
Wow. Just wow. This is incredibly well done. The videos (well, the ones I've been through so far) are informative and entertaining, and the site is well thought-out.

I think that if you can re-skin this and retool it for other themes/languages, you've got an excellent educational tool on your hands.

Good job!

Re: Rails for Zombies - Learn Rails from the comfort of your browser

#30
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rails is very easy to set up. Easier than any other software for programmers I've used. 1. Install Ruby with your package manager or with the installer for Windows (that's just download, next next next, done). 2. In your terminal: `gem install rails`

You had a good experience. Lots of people don't. Getting the environment set up took me hours, and I'm a programmer. First I installed Ruby with my distro's package manager. Then I followed the instructions in the book and installed gem from the RubyGems website. Uhoh, not supposed to do that anymore, Ruby comes with a different version of gem. The new Rails website tells me I need a different version of Ruby, the on…

I found Homebrew really helped out on the Mac.

I've had my problems with rails installations, but they were generally in trying to get specific rails code working- not getting a teaching instance up.

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