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How the vegan food trend made a star of the stinking jackfruit

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Re: How the vegan food trend made a star of the stinking jackfruit

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Jackfruit is awesome. However, as I discovered, that some people have some level of allergies to the raw fruit (some pollen allergy). You'll know it because your throat will tighten, your eyes will itch, etc. But if it's cooked, it's no problem.

Raw, it is slightly sweet and generally mild in flavor (with a nice texture, imo).

Cooked, it can be torn into strips that is very texturally similar to chicken or pulled pork.

Re: How the vegan food trend made a star of the stinking jackfruit

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Do people understand it’s nutritional value is not equivalent to what it’s replacing (when mimicking meat)? Looking at the “pulled pork” bun on the webpage made me think, would you still feel like this is just fine for lunch if it was slices of pineapple instead inside?

I’m a vegan.

I don’t really like jackfruit, but I can tell you that I don’t look for meat-equivalent nutrition really. I do seek to eat a healthy balanced diet, but removing meat and dairy means changing the rest of your diet to ensure your body gets all that it needs. If you were to go vegan by replacing meat with meat substitutes, you would not be a happy vegan. However the substitutes can be nice. Yesterday I got a beyond burger at Carl’s Jr. The meal had nothing to do with nutrition, but was about a longing for junk food I have missed.

There’s lots of reasons to eat jackfruit and I believe most vegans are clear that jackfruit cannot simply replace pork to make a healthy vegan diet.

Re: How the vegan food trend made a star of the stinking jackfruit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They grew all over the place where I lived in Nayarit, Mexico. They just had the boring smell of an unripe banana. Kinda tasted like one, too. Maybe they're confusing yaka with durian fruit?

Yeah, it really sounds like they're talking about Durian. You can barely say Jackfruit is covered in spikes.

Right, good point, I missed that earlier. Not really spikes. Even the photo at the top of the article sort of shows that. They are sharp protrusions on the surface of the skin of the fruit, but since they are not really hard, you can handle the fruit even with them being there. I've picked up heavy jackfruit a few times and not had any problem of being poked by the "spikes". And they get pretty heavy - I think 45 kg is not uncommon for a single fruit.

Re: How the vegan food trend made a star of the stinking jackfruit

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Do people understand it’s nutritional value is not equivalent to what it’s replacing (when mimicking meat)? Looking at the “pulled pork” bun on the webpage made me think, would you still feel like this is just fine for lunch if it was slices of pineapple instead inside?

> Do people understand it’s nutritional value is not equivalent to what it’s replacing (when mimicking meat)?

yes

> Looking at the “pulled pork” bun on the webpage made me think, would you still feel like this is just fine for lunch if it was slices of pineapple instead inside?

yes, that sounds like a way better lunch than pulled pork. I am not vegetarian and I am very active but I don't feel the need to eat meat more than once or twice a week. And even then that's only because I like its taste, afaik there is nothing in meat or dairy you can't find somewhere else.

Re: How the vegan food trend made a star of the stinking jackfruit

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post #21

Jackfruit is awesome. However, as I discovered, that some people have some level of allergies to the raw fruit (some pollen allergy). You'll know it because your throat will tighten, your eyes will itch, etc. But if it's cooked, it's no problem. Raw, it is slightly sweet and generally mild in flavor (with a nice texture, imo). Cooked, it can be torn into strips that is very texturally similar to chicken or pulled por…

Sounds like oral allergy syndrome, which is actually a response to the proteins in the food: https://www.allergicliving.com/2011/11/30/the-scoop-on-raw-v...

(And while I didn't like jackfruit on initial exposure, I quickly grew to enjoy it - not like Thailand's other stinking fruit, the durian, which some people really love but I detest...)

Re: How the vegan food trend made a star of the stinking jackfruit

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It bothers me how often veganism is at odds with the local food movement. It isn't all the time, but it seems to often be. It's hard for me to square any ethical argument for making an obscure fruit or seed from the other side of the planet a staple of my diet, particularly when that food is being produced in regions with environmental destruction unchecked by effective environmental regulation.

I agree! I think businesses trying to court more people in to trying plant based options may focus more on getting customers than being kind to the earth. Certainly veganism is often very aligned with the local food movement, but this processed packaged kind of product sure isn’t!

Re: How the vegan food trend made a star of the stinking jackfruit

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I've tried to buy this twice from china through ebay. First time, I got very tiny seeds - I have no idea what the plant is. Second time, I got orange seeds. I'd have kept trying but I found out that Jackfruit seeds lose viability very fast. So, even if the right seeds were sent, they'd be duds in the 2-3 months it takes to get to me. Wanted to see if it could be used commercially as a meat replacement in pies.

I've purchased canned jackfruit before from asian supermarkets. Depending on where you live, this could be difficult, but your area may have an H-Mart. I personally wasn't a fan of the texture.

Re: How the vegan food trend made a star of the stinking jackfruit

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> In May 2018, the Kerala government declared jackfruit the state’s official fruit, with the winning slogan: “Jackfruit is the best fruit. Its fruit has innumerable good qualities.”

This is so charming. Reminds me of Japanese small prefectures and cities and their local mascots and specialties.

Re: How the vegan food trend made a star of the stinking jackfruit

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post #7

It bothers me how often veganism is at odds with the local food movement. It isn't all the time, but it seems to often be. It's hard for me to square any ethical argument for making an obscure fruit or seed from the other side of the planet a staple of my diet, particularly when that food is being produced in regions with environmental destruction unchecked by effective environmental regulation.

I would bet that jackfruit from the other side of the world is less emissions-intensive than local beef. The carbon footprint of livestock production is absolutely insane, even if it's local. Of course ideally you'd do something both local and plant-based, but nobody's perfect.

Re: How the vegan food trend made a star of the stinking jackfruit

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Do people understand it’s nutritional value is not equivalent to what it’s replacing (when mimicking meat)? Looking at the “pulled pork” bun on the webpage made me think, would you still feel like this is just fine for lunch if it was slices of pineapple instead inside?

Some do; some don't.

In my experience, most find a source of protein quickly (tofu, tempeh, peanut butter, chickpeas, quinoa).

But some end up with iron deficiency and may need to take supplements. (Broccoli looks like a comparable source by weight -- 1.1mg per 148g, versus 2.2mg per 85g of beef. But 85g of beef is roughly 3/4 cup by volume, whereas to get the ~300g of broccoli for the same 2.2 mg of iron, you need to eat two stalks or three cups by volume.)

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