I wonder if this was why the Russians demanded that Apple put iCloud servers there.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/15/09/11/apple-begins-stor...
Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet
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Re: Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet
#22Any sources on the quote in the article, "Eventually the Russian government wants all domestic traffic to pass through these routing points. This is believed to be part of an effort to set up a mass censorship system akin to that seen in China, which tries to scrub out prohibited traffic." ? I searched and all I came up with was several sites saying the exact same thing, literally word for word, or otherwise saying s…
>> Eventually the Russian government wants all domestic traffic to pass through these [government-controlled] routing points. > Certainly not enough to suggest it's some sort of precursor to Chinese level censorship if this action is all that's based on. That technical capability is an essential precursor to building a clone of the great firewall. After that, the censorship is just a matter of adding firewall rules.
True, for blocking outgoing AND incoming connections.
Everyone in western media assumes the primary motivation is outgoing connections / censorship.
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#23It's a smart thing to do (to have such a plan) even if no cyberwar ever takes place. There are so many possible scenarios of what could go wrong and having autonomous but functioning internet is absolutely necessary.
What's the value in protecting the domestic internet from a cyber attack? Critical national information services absolutely, but if Reddit goes down, it's not a matter of national emergency. The conceit COULD be for disseminating information, but a text message system would make more sense in that regards, plus good old fashioned TV and Radio.
If Reddit goes down, it's not a matter of national emergency, but if say, all major news websites do, then you're probably fucked
Re: Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet
#24Any sources on the quote in the article, "Eventually the Russian government wants all domestic traffic to pass through these routing points. This is believed to be part of an effort to set up a mass censorship system akin to that seen in China, which tries to scrub out prohibited traffic." ? I searched and all I came up with was several sites saying the exact same thing, literally word for word, or otherwise saying s…
Source, Russian: https://www.rbc.ru/technology_and_media/08/02/2019/5c5c51069...
Re: Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet
#25> The test is also expected to involve ISPs demonstrating that they can direct data to government-controlled routing points. These will filter traffic so that data sent between Russians reaches its destination, but any destined for foreign computers is discarded. > Eventually the Russian government wants all domestic traffic to pass through these routing points. This is believed to be part of an effort to set up a ma…
don't worry, the US political system is doing similar but under the guise of "fake news" and "campaign finance reform". what doesn't work one way can simply be done another when you convince enough people to be afraid
Way to hijack a point to crow out a political charge.
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#26Surprising it's Russia, not China, doing this first, as senior ex-Googlers like Eric Schmidt and Kaifu Lee brought up this "two internet" thing [1] [2]
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/20/eric-schmidt-ex-google-ceo-p... [2] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/the-splinternet-an-internet-...
Re: Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet
#27Recalls the Maginot line, in the case of cyber warfare. How man taps are there? Perhaps more sensible for managing the information presented to their own population in emergencies.
Now I'm wondering what the cyber warfare equivalent of Sichelschnitt will be - where will be the big blindspots that they are ignoring?
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not even close. There is no network layer firewalling. Private platforms have kicked off offensive and BS content mostly to protect their market value to the majority of users.
Private platforms censor to appease the advertisers, not the users.
Which is appeasing the users indirectly.
Re: Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the value in protecting the domestic internet from a cyber attack? Critical national information services absolutely, but if Reddit goes down, it's not a matter of national emergency. The conceit COULD be for disseminating information, but a text message system would make more sense in that regards, plus good old fashioned TV and Radio.
If Reddit goes down, it's not a matter of national emergency, but if say, all major news websites do, then you're probably fucked
> but if say, all major news websites do, then you're probably fucked
Why? What absolutely vital information did the general populace just lose access to that's not the equivalent to "well my router died"?
Re: Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet
#30Interesting that they chose April fools day to test this.
> Interesting that they chose April fools day to test this.
They didn't:
> The test is due to happen before 1 April but no exact date has been set.