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After I realised the issue, we integrated Amazon Rekognition API to detect age range 200,000 profile pictures each month for this.
The apps are tools, it's up to the humans to do or not do stuff. In these cases, how are children getting in first? Where are the parents of these children?? Then, it's not the apps that create abuse, but the users on the other side. There could be a set of rules that the apps should make users agree with, and remind from time to time, like be kind, don't get angry if it doesn't work out, report strange behaviors/und…
The people in question are very literally not adults.
The apps are tools, it's up to the humans to do or not do stuff. In these cases, how are children getting in first? Where are the parents of these children?? Then, it's not the apps that create abuse, but the users on the other side. There could be a set of rules that the apps should make users agree with, and remind from time to time, like be kind, don't get angry if it doesn't work out, report strange behaviors/und…
"Guns don't mass murder people, humans do"
In the real world, if I saw a child go on dates with a grown adult, I'd alert the police and have the man arrested, then I'd do my damndest to have the restaurant shut down for facilitating the grooming of minors.
And most importantly, _in the real world_, we all have visibility of this and society as a whole acts in disgust and would (legal or otherwise) punish the offenders and people who facilitated and accommodated this.
> There could be a set of rules that the apps should make users agree with
A pinky promise maybe...
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And this is related to the whole discussion how?
He is alluding that the comment he replied to is using a slippery slope fallacy. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Slippery_slope
The apps are tools, it's up to the humans to do or not do stuff. In these cases, how are children getting in first? Where are the parents of these children?? Then, it's not the apps that create abuse, but the users on the other side. There could be a set of rules that the apps should make users agree with, and remind from time to time, like be kind, don't get angry if it doesn't work out, report strange behaviors/und…
> The apps are tools, it's up to the humans to do or not do stuff. "Guns don't mass murder people, humans do" In the real world, if I saw a child go on dates with a grown adult, I'd alert the police and have the man arrested, then I'd do my damndest to have the restaurant shut down for facilitating the grooming of minors. And most importantly, _in the real world_, we all have visibility of this and society as a whole…
You lost me there. This is an entirely unreasonable burden.
and the scope creep for the bad Online Identification begins. First it was no porn, then it was no dating. Soon it will be no rw to access to UK internet without age+ID. Disconnect the UK before the damage spreads!
Fantastic. Everything attributable to a public pseudonym privately tied to a real person.
This sounds exactly how it should be.
If somebody tries to subvert the law, they can easily be arrested and tried in a court of law.
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> The apps are tools, it's up to the humans to do or not do stuff. "Guns don't mass murder people, humans do" In the real world, if I saw a child go on dates with a grown adult, I'd alert the police and have the man arrested, then I'd do my damndest to have the restaurant shut down for facilitating the grooming of minors. And most importantly, _in the real world_, we all have visibility of this and society as a whole…
>then I'd do my damndest to have the restaurant shut down for facilitating the grooming of minors. You lost me there. This is an entirely unreasonable burden.
I used the word 'dates' (plural) - a re-occurring thing, not a one off event.
The apps are tools, it's up to the humans to do or not do stuff. In these cases, how are children getting in first? Where are the parents of these children?? Then, it's not the apps that create abuse, but the users on the other side. There could be a set of rules that the apps should make users agree with, and remind from time to time, like be kind, don't get angry if it doesn't work out, report strange behaviors/und…
> The apps are tools, it's up to the humans to do or not do stuff. "Guns don't mass murder people, humans do" In the real world, if I saw a child go on dates with a grown adult, I'd alert the police and have the man arrested, then I'd do my damndest to have the restaurant shut down for facilitating the grooming of minors. And most importantly, _in the real world_, we all have visibility of this and society as a whole…
Yes, that is true, even though you are being snarky. In fact, guns don't mass murder people, humans, put together into larger organizations (typically governments), do.
and the scope creep for the bad Online Identification begins. First it was no porn, then it was no dating. Soon it will be no rw to access to UK internet without age+ID. Disconnect the UK before the damage spreads!
> no rw to access to UK internet without age+ID Fantastic. Everything attributable to a public pseudonym privately tied to a real person. This sounds exactly how it should be. If somebody tries to subvert the law, they can easily be arrested and tried in a court of law.
The reason is simple: even if you trust the current government to not abuse all the tasty meta-data, who says the next government, led by the party you vocally criticized on the Internet, will look away?
Just look at China, or what Turkey is doing, or even what US border checks asking for your social media logins are doing right now.
One question - where the heck are these kids' parents? I think most people on dating apps are under the impression that other users are of legal age. If your child is searching for adult partners, complete strangers, over the Internet, you as a parent have a lot to answer for. That being said, none of that justifies what happened to the minors mentioned in the article. Ultimately, there are a lot of bad people out th…
> where the heck are these kids' parents? What about the internet suddenly absolves the company from being diligent and responsible? If this was shops selling alcohol & cigarettes to 14 year olds, would your response be "where the hell are the parents?" Parents aren't going to monitor their kids 24/7. > If your child is searching for adult partners, complete strangers, over the Internet, you as a parent have a lot to…
It's not about monitoring your kids 24/7. It's about instilling values in them precisely so they can monitor themselves. This is what differentiates good upbringing and clueless parenting looking for scapegoats.