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Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

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Post by todayiamme »

swebs wrote: post #18
sprsimplestuff wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say op's point stands regardless

Ok, but he explicitly tried to frame it as men "lacking empathy" for women, when it's just another case of someone out of touch with the target demographic.

I'm a woman, and this raises another point. People get really, really weird about this. Especially if you try to talk about it.

Also, women aren't just a target demographic. We're 50.5% of the population. And that's kinda the point. This isn't just inside baseball --- it's literally half of all humanity!

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

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Post by saagarjha »

todayiamme wrote: post #21
swebs wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, but he explicitly tried to frame it as men "lacking empathy" for women, when it's just another case of someone out of touch with the target demographic.

I'm a woman, and this raises another point. People get really, really weird about this. Especially if you try to talk about it. Also, women aren't just a target demographic. We're 50.5% of the population. And that's kinda the point. This isn't just inside baseball --- it's literally half of all humanity!

Not to brush this off in particular, but there are quite a few target demographics that are more than "half of all humanity". For example, people who use toilets.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

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Post by Impossible »

nostrademons wrote: post #19
tropo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That $.5 notepad can handle all 3 of your talking points, and it comes with privacy. (read the recent HackerNews article about DNA info being secretly shared if you can't see the problem) Getting fancy, you can buy nice charts with colorful status stickers. Minus the stickers, you can print the charts on any printer. All of this is private.

There's a math error even assuming your premise is true. There are 3.75 billion women on this world. Even limiting it to women with smartphones, there are over a billion of them. If each of them is currently spending $0.50 on a notepad (again, we're assuming your premise is true even though it's not), that's a $500M market. Not bad.

It's recurring revenue also. Eventually all of them will run out of space in the notepad and have to buy a new one. It might take years if you assume a page a month but maybe with clever marketing you can get some percentage of users to upgrade to luxury $5 notepads. That's 10x revenue per user!

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

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Post by derp_dee_derp »

todayiamme wrote: post #21
swebs wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, but he explicitly tried to frame it as men "lacking empathy" for women, when it's just another case of someone out of touch with the target demographic.

I'm a woman, and this raises another point. People get really, really weird about this. Especially if you try to talk about it. Also, women aren't just a target demographic. We're 50.5% of the population. And that's kinda the point. This isn't just inside baseball --- it's literally half of all humanity!

women are a target demographic, just like men are a target demographic. just because its a large demographic doesn't mean it isn't a demographic.

noun: demographic: a portion of a population, especially considered as consumers.

literally a demographic.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

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Post by chrisco255 »

todayiamme wrote: post #3

This article reminds me of the time when I told someone from the tech/rationality community that I was working for a consumer health tech startup that was focused on women's fertility and menstrual health. I was helping to design the UX of the product that had to do with the actual tracking of their cycles and their health. My friend had a reaction that was quite typical of most people I talked to, but it's one that…

It's likely that if someone lacks empathy they don't think about the problems of 100% of the population.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

chrisco255 wrote: post #26
todayiamme wrote: post #3

This article reminds me of the time when I told someone from the tech/rationality community that I was working for a consumer health tech startup that was focused on women's fertility and menstrual health. I was helping to design the UX of the product that had to do with the actual tracking of their cycles and their health. My friend had a reaction that was quite typical of most people I talked to, but it's one that…

It's likely that if someone lacks empathy they don't think about the problems of 100% of the population.

I can't work out if this is sarcasm or not.

Is the implication that people who don't lack empathy consider the problems of 100% of the population? Because that's obviously and demonstrably false.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

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Post by [deleted] »

DanBC wrote: post #20
todayiamme wrote: post #3

This article reminds me of the time when I told someone from the tech/rationality community that I was working for a consumer health tech startup that was focused on women's fertility and menstrual health. I was helping to design the UX of the product that had to do with the actual tracking of their cycles and their health. My friend had a reaction that was quite typical of most people I talked to, but it's one that…

Please don't quote long lines of text with four spaces. It makes the text unreadable.

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Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

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Post by chrisco255 »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #27
chrisco255 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's likely that if someone lacks empathy they don't think about the problems of 100% of the population.

I can't work out if this is sarcasm or not. Is the implication that people who don't lack empathy consider the problems of 100% of the population? Because that's obviously and demonstrably false.

I'm arguing that it's meaningless to try to pick a demographic that a non-empathetic person can relate with...since by definition, they struggle with that very skill across the entire population.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

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Post by acheron »

bsder wrote: post #10
tropo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That $.5 notepad can handle all 3 of your talking points, and it comes with privacy. (read the recent HackerNews article about DNA info being secretly shared if you can't see the problem) Getting fancy, you can buy nice charts with colorful status stickers. Minus the stickers, you can print the charts on any printer. All of this is private.

> That $.5 notepad can handle all 3 of your talking points, and it comes with privacy. Except that notepad can't tell you in semi-real time what is going on. A proper tracker can tell when "Hey, this period is likely to be short." or "Yo, go get checked, something is very weird."

And then sell that data to your insurance company.
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