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Stack Overflow: Helping One Million Developers Exit Vim (2017)

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Re: Stack Overflow: Helping One Million Developers Exit Vim (2017)

#21
Whenever I end up on another computer without my environment setup and end up in nano because it is the default, it always takes me a while. There is the cheat sheet at the bottom but as soon as the text appears I'll start manipulating it using vim keybindings and delete things and whatever else randomly. I always assume my fingers were not on the homerow correctly or something first. It is very disorienting.

So I imagine it is far worse for someone who ends up in Vim the same way.

Re: Stack Overflow: Helping One Million Developers Exit Vim (2017)

#22

Hot take: Vim should include a simple “Type :qa! to quit” line in its startup message. Something makes me think it would clear up a lot of confusion for first time users. EDIT: I notice now that it has a “Type :q to exit.” I never noticed that before, and I use Vim most days, so I can see how others might miss it too.

Anyone easily confused by how to quit vim should not be using a computer at all, much less vim.

People with this attitude shouldn't be using a computer, for fear they might get into software development and alienate an entire swathe of potentially great engineers.

Re: Stack Overflow: Helping One Million Developers Exit Vim (2017)

#24
post #10

Why is this such an issue? It is no harder exiting vim than it is exiting plain old vi, nvi or any other vi clone. In fact, the very same keystrokes that you use for exiting vi can be used in vim as well.

Did you consider the case where the user has never used any vi variant before?

Then why the hell are they using Unix at all?!

Re: Stack Overflow: Helping One Million Developers Exit Vim (2017)

#25
post #10

Why is this such an issue? It is no harder exiting vim than it is exiting plain old vi, nvi or any other vi clone. In fact, the very same keystrokes that you use for exiting vi can be used in vim as well.

Did you consider the case where the user has never used any vi variant before?

it's still not much harder. Just press F1, like in most applications or type " cheatsheet" into your favorite search engine. Takes less than a minute to figure it out.

Re: Stack Overflow: Helping One Million Developers Exit Vim (2017)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone easily confused by how to quit vim should not be using a computer at all, much less vim.

People with this attitude shouldn't be using a computer, for fear they might get into software development and alienate an entire swathe of potentially great engineers.

I sincerely hope that I do eliminate such people who can't figure out how to quit out of vim.

Re: Stack Overflow: Helping One Million Developers Exit Vim (2017)

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, why not something like pico / nano? Seems more friendly to occasional users, who are the people most likely to hit the default.

Would you drive a Yaris if you had a Ferrari in your garage? Didn't think so

I'd rather drive the Yaris to pick up groceries and the Ferrari to movie premieres and races.

I don't see much value in having an Uber powerful editor for git commits.

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