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Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by yuy910616 »

bayulxc5 wrote: post #14
electrichead wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't use GitHub or LinkedIn or Skype either? You might also rely on sites that are built with Microsoft technologies (Stack overflow for example) or find that your workplace gets by with Excel. It's hard to say you don't use their technologies.

I don't use github or linkedin. I don't use skype either... because Microsoft ruined it and everybody left (for business now I use Hangouts and for gaming now I use Discord).

that's clearly wrong. not everybody left. you left

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by [deleted] »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #12

A VC friend of mine characterized these kinds of answers nicely: incredible, profound bullshit that no one seems to know how to cut through. On a level specific to Microsoft, their biggest threat is how agreeable and self-deprecating everything they do is now. Corporate cultures thrive on hierarchy, and yet their employees are pretty comfortable admitting to their friends that Windows and Azure are crap. The quiet tr…

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Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

partiallypro wrote: post #7
bayulxc5 wrote: post #3

The only product from Microsoft I use is Windows and they're ruining it. So, sorry Satya, but...

How are they ruining Windows? People have been saying this since XP (before SP1 or SP2, when everyone hated it.) Yet there's not much evidence to support it...they are actually doing some really cool things with Windows now like adding bash and having different flavor Linux subsystems. The main issue I've had is some lack of quality control since they let go tons of testers and used Insiders instead. That has not eff…

I'm not the one you're asking. But to me, the (most recent) way they ruined Windows was the new interface. I don't want to interact with my desktop via a phone/tablet interface. I don't want to use a touchscreen. I want to use only the keyboard and mouse.

More: I don't want to use my computer as a media consumption device.

So for me, all the new UI changes are counterproductive. But that's me. Others have different usage profiles; whether it's a net win or a net loss depends on the customer mix.

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by gnu8 »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #12

A VC friend of mine characterized these kinds of answers nicely: incredible, profound bullshit that no one seems to know how to cut through. On a level specific to Microsoft, their biggest threat is how agreeable and self-deprecating everything they do is now. Corporate cultures thrive on hierarchy, and yet their employees are pretty comfortable admitting to their friends that Windows and Azure are crap. The quiet tr…

Microsoft deserves to go gentle into that good night because of all the damage they’ve done to the computing industry over the years, for example killing Be and Netscape with monopolist tactics and creating a terminally insecure software monoculture of the lowest common denominator of Windows and IE, that we’re still recovering from today. (Google is repeating the lesson today - Android is the Windows 98 of mobile).

I’m glad to see them disappear and it drives me crazy to talk to all of these people who think Office 365 and Azure are sex on a stick. They’ve either forgotten the past or they don’t care.

Microsoft deserves to die.

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by duxup »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #23
partiallypro wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are they ruining Windows? People have been saying this since XP (before SP1 or SP2, when everyone hated it.) Yet there's not much evidence to support it...they are actually doing some really cool things with Windows now like adding bash and having different flavor Linux subsystems. The main issue I've had is some lack of quality control since they let go tons of testers and used Insiders instead. That has not eff…

I'm not the one you're asking. But to me, the (most recent) way they ruined Windows was the new interface. I don't want to interact with my desktop via a phone/tablet interface. I don't want to use a touchscreen. I want to use only the keyboard and mouse. More: I don't want to use my computer as a media consumption device. So for me , all the new UI changes are counterproductive. But that's me. Others have different…

But all the cards and the tablet interface stuff ... is all side stuff that you don't need to use? At least I hardly ever see any sign of it.

Am I missing something?

There was an issue a LONG time ago when the tiles were more front and center but they dumped that a while ago.

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by tomnipotent »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #12

A VC friend of mine characterized these kinds of answers nicely: incredible, profound bullshit that no one seems to know how to cut through. On a level specific to Microsoft, their biggest threat is how agreeable and self-deprecating everything they do is now. Corporate cultures thrive on hierarchy, and yet their employees are pretty comfortable admitting to their friends that Windows and Azure are crap. The quiet tr…

> and yet their employees are pretty comfortable admitting to their friends that Windows and Azure are crap

You make a whole lot of claims with absolutely zero evidence to back it up.

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by bduerst »

electrichead wrote: post #4
bayulxc5 wrote: post #3

The only product from Microsoft I use is Windows and they're ruining it. So, sorry Satya, but...

You don't use GitHub or LinkedIn or Skype either? You might also rely on sites that are built with Microsoft technologies (Stack overflow for example) or find that your workplace gets by with Excel. It's hard to say you don't use their technologies.

Github is a recent acquisition, but Linkedin and Skype are not exactly shining examples.

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by partiallypro »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #23
partiallypro wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are they ruining Windows? People have been saying this since XP (before SP1 or SP2, when everyone hated it.) Yet there's not much evidence to support it...they are actually doing some really cool things with Windows now like adding bash and having different flavor Linux subsystems. The main issue I've had is some lack of quality control since they let go tons of testers and used Insiders instead. That has not eff…

I'm not the one you're asking. But to me, the (most recent) way they ruined Windows was the new interface. I don't want to interact with my desktop via a phone/tablet interface. I don't want to use a touchscreen. I want to use only the keyboard and mouse. More: I don't want to use my computer as a media consumption device. So for me , all the new UI changes are counterproductive. But that's me. Others have different…

Considering Microsoft is likely killing live tiles and there isn't much of a touch interface at all, I don't understand your problem. Are you talking about Windows 8? I genuinely don't know exactly what you mean at all.

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by will_pseudonym »

sovnade wrote: post #10
bayulxc5 wrote: post #3

The only product from Microsoft I use is Windows and they're ruining it. So, sorry Satya, but...

There are for sure features that I disagree with in Win10 like telemetry and automatic reboots while I'm using the computer (which has been resolved), but it's a far stretch to say they're ruining windows. I don't think I've ever had a full crash on my current Win10 box that I use daily. Driver issues are almost nonexistent. It does everything I need it to without issue. I'm not sure what else I would want from an OS…

I have an annoying recurring bug in explorer.exe where, when playing full-screen media, the task bar is shown, obscuring the bottom of the content. I have a batch file on my desktop to kill/start explorer.exe it happens so often. That type of issue never happened in Windows 7/XP.

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by duxup »

bayulxc5 wrote: post #3

The only product from Microsoft I use is Windows and they're ruining it. So, sorry Satya, but...

I've seen a lot of "Windows ruined" stuff, articles and such, but they always seem like issues that were always there about patching issues and such... or even just stuff that isn't an issue anymore.

I swear I see a lot of complaints but the things people cite seem like nothing new or ultra minor stuff that you could have cited all through Windows history.

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