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CRISPR-baby scientist fired by university

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Re: CRISPR-baby scientist fired by university

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Does anybody really believe that China is upholding strong ethical standards here? Sure the uni dumped this guy, but I'd assume there is a large project that the government is at minimum aware of to edit genes.

Maybe many countries have similar secret projects.... but obviously public projects are not allowed.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not at all opposed to the idea of gene editing, but I wonder if the issue here isn't that he didn't have proper medical authorization to do this. Most countries have laws against cowboy medicine for a reason.

If you seek medical authorization, you will find that no one will approve it

Because it will most likely lead to inhumane atrocities that would turn the general public against the technology for a generation

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I feel like this turns babies into technology. We might have version 1 where babies aren't likely to get HIV or some other malady. Next round, perhaps we'll see more height, different skin color, increased intelligence. If it's like any other product, it appears babies would be coming out of a factory and with tiers for different features you can buy based on your purchasing power. Sort of like buying an iPhone excep…

The worst part is that by the time they were in Kindergarten, the newer models would obsolete them. Bigger, faster, stronger, and MUCH smarter! Now 10% off!

In an alternate universe where Apple produces babies, they'll eventually become so thin they'll snap and bend if you look at them funny.

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The worst part is that by the time they were in Kindergarten, the newer models would obsolete them. Bigger, faster, stronger, and MUCH smarter! Now 10% off!

I think that a newer generation having advantages over a previous one doesn't mean any improvement of our stature is forbidden.

Yes, if the time scales of the updates were spaced across generations. But I guess commercial availability of such technology would mean much shorter time scales leading to very bad consequences for the aging population. Eventually, perhaps leading events like one generation deciding to stop manufacturing babies. Could lead to scary consequences if not thought through...

Re: CRISPR-baby scientist fired by university

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you seek medical authorization, you will find that no one will approve it

Because it will most likely lead to inhumane atrocities that would turn the general public against the technology for a generation

We'd never have developed vaccines with that attitude, though. The Precautionary Principle sounds great in theory, but it's a recipe for permanent stasis.

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I feel like this turns babies into technology. We might have version 1 where babies aren't likely to get HIV or some other malady. Next round, perhaps we'll see more height, different skin color, increased intelligence. If it's like any other product, it appears babies would be coming out of a factory and with tiers for different features you can buy based on your purchasing power. Sort of like buying an iPhone excep…

The worst part is that by the time they were in Kindergarten, the newer models would obsolete them. Bigger, faster, stronger, and MUCH smarter! Now 10% off!

I'm 26 right now and I'm not planning to have kids until I'm 35 for this exact reason. I don't want my kid to say: "Daddy, why do other kids have disease resistance and I don't? Do you not love me? Or were you one of those stupid anti-CRISPRers who don't believe in science (the anti-vaxxers of the next decades)?"

I'd rather wait for 5-10 years to make sure I don't make a lifelong mistake.

Re: CRISPR-baby scientist fired by university

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The worst part is that by the time they were in Kindergarten, the newer models would obsolete them. Bigger, faster, stronger, and MUCH smarter! Now 10% off!

I'm 26 right now and I'm not planning to have kids until I'm 35 for this exact reason. I don't want my kid to say: "Daddy, why do other kids have disease resistance and I don't? Do you not love me? Or were you one of those stupid anti-CRISPRers who don't believe in science (the anti-vaxxers of the next decades)?" I'd rather wait for 5-10 years to make sure I don't make a lifelong mistake.

Don’t wait too long, reproductive tissue begins to degrade in your 30s.

Re: CRISPR-baby scientist fired by university

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The worst part is that by the time they were in Kindergarten, the newer models would obsolete them. Bigger, faster, stronger, and MUCH smarter! Now 10% off!

I'm 26 right now and I'm not planning to have kids until I'm 35 for this exact reason. I don't want my kid to say: "Daddy, why do other kids have disease resistance and I don't? Do you not love me? Or were you one of those stupid anti-CRISPRers who don't believe in science (the anti-vaxxers of the next decades)?" I'd rather wait for 5-10 years to make sure I don't make a lifelong mistake.

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