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Bed that saved me from the Taliban

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Re: Bed that saved me from the Taliban

#21

Amazing read. Happy that he made it out. Loved the closing comment as well (I wonder why everyone of us can't live like this without going through a NDE, I myself am a guilty party): >You know, sitting on the beach in Greece with friends I've heard people complaining that because we had a financial crisis they miss some of the comforts they used to have. I am like, "Come on! Enjoy your life and health. You are eating…

NDE = near death experience, presumably.

Re: Bed that saved me from the Taliban

#22

Just FYI, Taliban was the creation of Pakistani military intelligence to fight Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 80's and funded by the CIA.

Rather irrelevant. Also something that is somewhat incorrect. Taliban specifically wasn't the creation of Pakistani military intelligence to fight Soviet Invasion funded by the CIA.

1. The Soviet invasion wasn't really an invasion considering it was on a request by the current government to pacify the rebels i.e. Assad, Russia and Syria recently. ( not sure if officially requested support but there is a clear mutual understanding ).

2. Taliban as a group didn't exist during or before the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan. The group you are thinking of is the Mujahideen, which were basically decentralised groups with local warlords leading them. The seven main mujahideen parties later allied as the political bloc called Islamic Unity of Afghanistan Mujahideen. So, eventually the Soviet retreated in around 1989 and the DRA ( the government of Afghanistan ) also fell around 1992. However, the Islamic Unity of Afghanistan Mujahideen actually couldn't form a united government which lead to infighting i.e. various groups basically fighting over Kabul. While this was happening, a man named Mullah Omar from a small village started a movement which eventually became the Taliban.

So, to say that the Taliban was funded by the CIA is pretty incorrect, and so is to say that it was created to fight the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan.

Re: Bed that saved me from the Taliban

#23
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do we need to have a point behind each fact? is there a point behind each Wikipedia article?

Generally yes, there tends to be an ulterior motive behind the statement of tangentially related facts on discussions of news stories. But in any case, thanks to your information I've concluded that it's the Soviets who are responsible for the crimes of the Taliban.

>> But in any case, thanks to your information I've concluded that it's the Soviets who are responsible for the crimes of the Taliban.

Ah, well spotted! Yes, them and Cu Cuhullin.

Re: Bed that saved me from the Taliban

#24
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally yes, there tends to be an ulterior motive behind the statement of tangentially related facts on discussions of news stories. But in any case, thanks to your information I've concluded that it's the Soviets who are responsible for the crimes of the Taliban.

>> But in any case, thanks to your information I've concluded that it's the Soviets who are responsible for the crimes of the Taliban. Ah, well spotted! Yes, them and Cu Cuhullin.

Ah, so you did have a point! :)

Re: Bed that saved me from the Taliban

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post #22

Just FYI, Taliban was the creation of Pakistani military intelligence to fight Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 80's and funded by the CIA.

Rather irrelevant. Also something that is somewhat incorrect. Taliban specifically wasn't the creation of Pakistani military intelligence to fight Soviet Invasion funded by the CIA. 1. The Soviet invasion wasn't really an invasion considering it was on a request by the current government to pacify the rebels i.e. Assad, Russia and Syria recently. ( not sure if officially requested support but there is a clear mutual…

Tomatos, tomatoes - same tribes doing the same thing (whatever in that particular year they were called), and yes they were trained in Pakistan (or Pakistani-controlled area or whatever - there are no real borders there) and yes, they were getting CIA help.

Re: Bed that saved me from the Taliban

#27
Worth mentioning that the Taliban has just conducted another terrible attack this morning

> The Wardak attack is turning into the single deadliest attack against the Afghan intelligence in the past 17 yrs. We are hearing now at least 40 dead more than 50 wounded. (some officials still insist not all are NDS officers - includes local upriser militias they were training) https://twitter.com/MujMash/status/1087338155072724992?s=19

Re: Bed that saved me from the Taliban

#28
Great article.

But one detail seems to be wrong:

It says "I had to do something, so I went out on to the balcony. I could see the fire on __my left hand side__, it was heavy and I realised that if it reached my room I wasn't going to survive."

The provided image circles the balcony on the right hand side of the fire, so it would have been either his right hand side where he saw the fire, the image has been mirrored, or BBC just circled the wrong balcony: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/720x405/p06ynx4y.jpg

Re: Bed that saved me from the Taliban

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post #21

Amazing read. Happy that he made it out. Loved the closing comment as well (I wonder why everyone of us can't live like this without going through a NDE, I myself am a guilty party): >You know, sitting on the beach in Greece with friends I've heard people complaining that because we had a financial crisis they miss some of the comforts they used to have. I am like, "Come on! Enjoy your life and health. You are eating…

NDE = near death experience, presumably.

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Re: Bed that saved me from the Taliban

#30
According to his tale, he was almost killed by special forces snipers. I know you could not blame them due to the confusion, but it would have been terrible to survive the attackers just to be killed by the people that were supposed to save you.
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