Tried it out, and while fun, there was just too much latency for me to enjoy the clickiness. It felt like I was mildly drunk while using it.
De-Suckafying Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard
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Re: De-Suckafying Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard
#22I see a lot of complaining about this keyboard online but I have yet to meet someone in person that thought it was as terrible as claimed. I love the new MacBook keyboards and Touch Bar but it's possible that I'm a complete outlier.
I owned or worked with many MacBooks from 2003-2015, and the keyboards were always fine. The new keyboards are utter crap. On multiple machines, brand new out of box, the keys stuck, didn't register, or repeated. My personal late-2016 MacBook Pro was the worst, to the point that the V/B/N keys (it's always the ones above the spacebar that are worst) stopped working at all, and I had to have Apple replace it (which they did for free despite it being about 16 months post-purchase). The new keyboard functions, but I expect it to have the same problems.
Aside from simply being defective at a high rate, it's also physically unpleasant, but that's more a matter of opinion.
Re: De-Suckafying Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard
#23I've owned MBPs for over ten years. But my mid-2015 15" MBP ("peak MBP") is giving out, and I need a replacement. It won't be another MBP, because of the keyboard regressions -- the butterfly keyboard, and the touchbar. Thinking about a System 76 Galago.
I'm in the same boat and will need to switch once my 2015 dies, but I really don't want to have to switch from MacOS. 90% of my work depends on the keyboard and I can't stand the response of the butterfly switches, it's like typing on a piece of glass. Do I have to hackintosh may way back in?
Yes. Join us on the dark side.
https://github.com/bavariancake/XPS9570-macOS
I still have my 2012 MBPr, but I’m really liking the keyboard on the XPS 15.
Re: De-Suckafying Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard
#24There are many complaints about the MBP keyboard. I don't know whether "not noisy enough" is one of them.
The next version of this app will prevent microscopic dust particles from blocking/repeating keystrokes
Re: De-Suckafying Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard
#25I've owned MBPs for over ten years. But my mid-2015 15" MBP ("peak MBP") is giving out, and I need a replacement. It won't be another MBP, because of the keyboard regressions -- the butterfly keyboard, and the touchbar. Thinking about a System 76 Galago.
I was in the exact same situation late last year, and I went with a X1 Carbon 6th Generation. It has been fantastic. Everything just works, and it has probably the best keyboard I have ever used on a laptop
Just 2 days ago, I spent 2 hours researching alternatives for my mid-2012 MBPr 15 and had settled on an X1 Carbon as well.
How's the trackpad?
How's sleep mode if you use it with Linux?
I'm still on the fence, but I ordered an iFixit battery replacement kit for the MBP. After almost 7 years (!), it still has everything I need except for the fact that it randomly shuts down when the battery is at 60%...
Re: De-Suckafying Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard
#26I see a lot of complaining about this keyboard online but I have yet to meet someone in person that thought it was as terrible as claimed. I love the new MacBook keyboards and Touch Bar but it's possible that I'm a complete outlier.
We obviously haven't talked! I absolutely hate the new butterfly keyboards, it's bothering me as I type this! It makes me feel like I'm one of the attention seeking mechanical keyboard users...
Apple has been going downhill for quite a while now. Loud keyboards and giant phones...
Re: De-Suckafying Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard
#27I see a lot of complaining about this keyboard online but I have yet to meet someone in person that thought it was as terrible as claimed. I love the new MacBook keyboards and Touch Bar but it's possible that I'm a complete outlier.
You're an outlier, everybody I know in real life who has one (myself included) think it's stupid and awful.
Re: De-Suckafying Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard
#28I've owned MBPs for over ten years. But my mid-2015 15" MBP ("peak MBP") is giving out, and I need a replacement. It won't be another MBP, because of the keyboard regressions -- the butterfly keyboard, and the touchbar. Thinking about a System 76 Galago.
> It won't be another MBP, because of the keyboard regressions Have you tried the third generation butterfly on the 2018 MBP and MBA? I hate with a passion the first two attempts at the butterfly keyboard, but the third gen I actually enjoy using.
Although it is nicer, even the 3rd gen keyboards have reports of keys sticking and breaking. I've never had to worry about my laptop keyboard breaking before I got a butterfly keyboard macbook from work.
Re: De-Suckafying Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm in the same boat and will need to switch once my 2015 dies, but I really don't want to have to switch from MacOS. 90% of my work depends on the keyboard and I can't stand the response of the butterfly switches, it's like typing on a piece of glass. Do I have to hackintosh may way back in?
Yes. Join us on the dark side. https://github.com/bavariancake/XPS9570-macOS I still have my 2012 MBPr, but I’m really liking the keyboard on the XPS 15.
Is it futz intensive? How far away from "it just works" are you?
Re: De-Suckafying Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard
#30I see a lot of complaining about this keyboard online but I have yet to meet someone in person that thought it was as terrible as claimed. I love the new MacBook keyboards and Touch Bar but it's possible that I'm a complete outlier.
I wrote my Ph.D. dissertation on the 2016 MacBook Pro keyboard. It's... ok, I don't hate it, but even after years of using it, I still sometimes get this odd feeling that something is slightly off. I've never had this feeling before, with any keyboard except possibly with some of the more aggressive ergonomic keyboards like the Kinesis (and that was more of a layout issue).
There are the maintenance issues, but that's not what I'm talking about here. I did have a sticky key (after about a year), and did get it fixed with Apple's free maintenance (edit: so I'm now on the 2018 keyboard), but this feeling I've had from the beginning and still do occasionally.
This contrasts in my mind very starkly with my experience with my very first MacBook keyboard circa 2009. I'd never had a Mac before or any kind of laptop, but when I first used the keyboard I never had to think twice about it. This stuck in my memory because of how much people raved about that keyboard at the time; but I guess it's a property of a good thing that you only notice it when it's gone.