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Re: Tesla Roadster is going to be able to hover over the ground, says Elon Musk

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Post by aaaaaatttuyy » Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 7:46 AM UTC

sunstone wrote: post #18

Musk is technically very clever (have you seen SpaceX rockets landing in tandem?)s o it's likely he has something that comes close to what he's saying. If so, I expect the real problem with this system will be safety. Sure you might be able to squirt a high density gas or liquid at high enough speed to move this car but then what is that high speed fluid going to hit? Probably it would tear up roads, cut down trees,…

> Musk is technically very clever (have you seen SpaceX rockets landing in tandem?)s o it's likely he has something that comes close to what he's saying.

This was done in the 90s, there's nothing special about landing rockets upright. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-X

Also, being technically clever includes being able to navigate the problems that you brought up, such as the need to meet government standards, meet safety requirements and actually be useful.

Re: Tesla Roadster is going to be able to hover over the ground, says Elon Musk

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Post by Traster » Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 11:04 AM UTC

I think we need to have a conversation about Elon Musk and gas-lighting.

I think we can all agree that some people are demonstrably taking what Musk has said to be a genuine statement about a feature in a new product. You can observe this from the people discussing in detail how it will work. Now, I'm not going to argue about that. Let's assume it turns out that this feature is not in the next Roadster. Can someone convince me that this isn't market manipulation? He's lying about features in his future products in a way that will clearly effect the market if they were true. And when it turns out to be untrue he'll throw his hands up and say it was a joke - despite literally saying he's not joking and going into details of the implementation.

Tell me, how does this differ from when Elon Musk called someone a pedofile, repeatedly, then claimed that his accusations must be true because the guy didn't sue him, and then filed court documents claiming that it was clearly all a joke to defend himself from libel claims.

Does anyone else feel uncomfortable handing ANY money or control to this person? I personally feel like Elon Musk seems to have started to cross a line into actively attacking some of the fundamental norms in our society in some sort of effort to avoid ever having to have any responsibility. This is genuinely starting to feel dangerous to me, maybe I'm being overly sensitive, but we've let this stuff slide in the past and it has been catastrophic.

Re: Tesla Roadster is going to be able to hover over the ground, says Elon Musk

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Post by burgerboy » Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 12:55 PM UTC

Traster wrote: post #22

I think we need to have a conversation about Elon Musk and gas-lighting. I think we can all agree that some people are demonstrably taking what Musk has said to be a genuine statement about a feature in a new product. You can observe this from the people discussing in detail how it will work. Now, I'm not going to argue about that. Let's assume it turns out that this feature is not in the next Roadster. Can someone c…

You'll look stupid when he isn't lying you biased garbage

Re: Tesla Roadster is going to be able to hover over the ground, says Elon Musk

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Post by Gravityloss » Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 3:32 PM UTC

dTal wrote: post #5

With compressed air? No. I don't care how "not joking" he is, the power density is just not enough to lift a car for more than a few seconds even if the entire car were filled with tanks. It's just common sense. Have you ever seen compressed air VTOL on anything ? He also claims it will allow the car to accelerate "at the limit of human endurance" which would imply thrust vectoring also. Perhaps he's testing the limi…

It works better if you add water as reaction mass. :)

http://aircommandrockets.com/water.htm