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The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by protomyth »

threeseed wrote: post #6
protomyth wrote: post #5

I cannot help but think that an iPhone XR mini would have been a great seller if it hit the $450 range. I just don't understand Apple these days, its like they have reverted to the early 90's where they kept jacking the price until even the loyal customers had to exit the ship. I had so believed they would repeat the iPod strategy and start at the top end and slowly squeeze the market by introducing models that fille…

I don't understand why people are so confused on this. Apple ships models that fill the lower price brands. It is the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 which are still supported and being sold.

I'm not confused, I just don't consider iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 anything other than clearance models. This is electronics, buying old models is just insane particularity since they aren't discounted enough over their original prices.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by prepend »

0x0 wrote: post #12
threeseed wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why people are so confused on this. Apple ships models that fill the lower price brands. It is the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 which are still supported and being sold.

Buying iPhone 7 or 8, ie a one or two year old phone, practically guarantees that you'll hit the end of the road with iOS major version update availability one or two years earlier, which means you'll have to buy a new phone one or two years earlier. Not sure if the $100 or so that you save is worth losing a year of updates. In other words - adding $100 or so buys you a whole 'nother year or two of usage on your curr…

I’m running both a 5S and 6S with latest iOS. An iPhone 8 should be good for st least five years.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by rossdavidh »

porphyrogene wrote: post #2

That video at the top of the page is absolutely god awful. I acknowledge that this is a low-quality comment but that cannot go unmentioned. I would believe that the first ten seconds are satirical.

My God, you kept listening for TEN seconds?!? :)

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by koyote »

pdimitar wrote: post #11

Or maybe the Asian market is not riding the display 's notch hype train? They might view the notch + the high price as opposing factors (I once heard a guy say "why would you pay so much for a phone with a screen that's cut on several places?"). Food for thought. I bought the X because I wanted an OLED screen iPhone. And I was digging the less bezels. The notch however is irritating me to this day, 14 months in. And…

I agree. The notch simply does not look premium at all. It's the kind of design decision you would see in lower-end phones as a compromise.

The fact that so many Android OEMs followed suit surprised me. The usual chinese iPhone clones going along with it? Sure! But so many 'reputable' companies went for it, it's just incomprehensible.

Anecdotally I just can't imagine someone preferring a notch to no notch (as long as the bezels aren't massive on the alternative). What kind of data were the Android OEMs looking at when they made that decision? Or did they not look at any data at all and simply go with "we better follow Apple on this, just in case".

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by 0x0 »

prepend wrote: post #22
0x0 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buying iPhone 7 or 8, ie a one or two year old phone, practically guarantees that you'll hit the end of the road with iOS major version update availability one or two years earlier, which means you'll have to buy a new phone one or two years earlier. Not sure if the $100 or so that you save is worth losing a year of updates. In other words - adding $100 or so buys you a whole 'nother year or two of usage on your curr…

I’m running both a 5S and 6S with latest iOS. An iPhone 8 should be good for st least five years.

The fact that the 5s got iOS 12 is more of an exception than the rule. The 5 stopped at iOS 10, and the 4s stopped at iOS 9, so the general trend should have stopped the 5s at 11.

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Post by zozbot123 »

pdimitar wrote: post #11

Or maybe the Asian market is not riding the display 's notch hype train? They might view the notch + the high price as opposing factors (I once heard a guy say "why would you pay so much for a phone with a screen that's cut on several places?"). Food for thought. I bought the X because I wanted an OLED screen iPhone. And I was digging the less bezels. The notch however is irritating me to this day, 14 months in. And…

> It's even more absurd seeing how many Android OEMs followed suit with the notch.

Many Android OEMs let you hide it by painting the top bar black, though. It's even more ludicrous than that because Apple actually advertised the iPhone X by releasing a press photo where the notch was hidden due to showing a full-screen image with a mostly black background. Someone actually took Apple to court for deceptive advertising, because of that and other stuff they're quibbling about. But Apple won't allow us users the same freedom when using the device!

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Post by throw0u1t »

code_duck wrote: post #20
throw0u1t wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I don't want an iPhone 7 or an 8. And it makes no sense that Apple sell both the 7 and the 8. Apple should make a phone like the SE which is made for the low-mid market, not just discount its old models.

Why? What’s wrong with an iPhone 7 or 8? Why would you prefer an SE-like model?

I don't want a 7 because it comes in either 32GB or 256GB, no 64GB or 128GB.

I don't want an 8 because I don't want a phone with a glass back.

iPhone SE was perfect. Metal all round, small, affordable, powerful.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by whttheuuu »

pdimitar wrote: post #11

Or maybe the Asian market is not riding the display 's notch hype train? They might view the notch + the high price as opposing factors (I once heard a guy say "why would you pay so much for a phone with a screen that's cut on several places?"). Food for thought. I bought the X because I wanted an OLED screen iPhone. And I was digging the less bezels. The notch however is irritating me to this day, 14 months in. And…

I don't understand the issue with the notch. You either have a notch or a full bezel....

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by SllX »

code_duck wrote: post #20
throw0u1t wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I don't want an iPhone 7 or an 8. And it makes no sense that Apple sell both the 7 and the 8. Apple should make a phone like the SE which is made for the low-mid market, not just discount its old models.

Why? What’s wrong with an iPhone 7 or 8? Why would you prefer an SE-like model?

Some people like smaller phones. It’s not that hard to understand.
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