Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their webpage says Iridium is built on top of Chromium.
I don’t know the status of it, but Brave is built on Firefox iirc. Edit: nope, was wrong
Brave is built on Chromium[0].
Firefox shows ads for Booking.com in New Tab page
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#23This is deeply upsetting to me because I have continually pushed Firefox to friends and family as the only alternative to Google's strongarm dominance of our virtual lives. I have no other alternative to recommend my social circle and feel, daily, increasingly helpless to do anything about a future determined to shake down the miracle of humanity for pocket change. Mozilla Corp--the for-profit business arm of nonprof…
> It was not a paid placement or advertisement. I would like that people were more explicit in why they despise ads. For me it is because they are unsecure, often outside the control of the site owner and heavily rely on tracking. For a long time my impression of Mozilla is that they are trying to "sanitize" ads on the web by experimenting on advertisements that are non-tracking by design. (this does not cover cliqz,…
> I would like that people were more explicit in why they despise ads.
Sorry, but no. Ads are not a good way to monetize software. Period. This has been discussed enough in countless articles during the last two years. The reasons are well-known by now. If you still managed to miss all that has been written about ads, I recommend Pinboard's talk about website obesity as a starting point.
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#24What I don't get is how they keep doing those "it might look like an ad except we don't even get paid" stunts. Honestly, to me this seems even worse than actually inserting genuine ads. That would be horrible as well, but at least I knew they are a way to support Mozilla.
Those "partnerships" on the other hand seem all about showing that Mozilla is willing to sacrifice any kind of UI integrity or user control in order to advertise their user base as capital - without even gaining them anything.
What is going on there?
...or are some people in charge at Mozilla really delusional enough to believe the "this is our thank you to our users" line?
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#25Is Mozilla that lacking in money that they have to do this?
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#26This is deeply upsetting to me because I have continually pushed Firefox to friends and family as the only alternative to Google's strongarm dominance of our virtual lives. I have no other alternative to recommend my social circle and feel, daily, increasingly helpless to do anything about a future determined to shake down the miracle of humanity for pocket change. Mozilla Corp--the for-profit business arm of nonprof…
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#27I don’t get how people can defend Mozilla over this yet blast chrome for simply being a Google product. Yeah there’s concern over what Google tracks but I’d be using their search and services in Firefox anyways.
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#28Someone has to pay their programmers. It's through ads via partnership with Google or other ads.
There are ways to go about this that are much cleaner and less suspect.
By simply shoehorning this into the existing Snippets functionality and deploying it without warning they're continuing a dark interaction pattern with their users.
Their response to the issue - a weird way of maybe saying they weren't paid for this and that it is purely to help users - is either a weasel words lie or a ridiculously out of touch action that is not cognizant of how much goodwill they've been tarnishing over the past year.
Neither bodes well for them.
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#29The more they pull stunts like these, the more i realize it's time to fork FF and get rid of all their garbage. Make Pocket optional, remove the (paid?) list of URLs that's apparently preloaded, remove all of the phone home shit.
Go ahead. Really. You’ll quickly find that even just forking and building and distributing your releases for every FF-Release (not to speak of keeping your patches up-to-date) will consume a substantial amount of resources. Just consider the case that a 0day drops, FF gets an urgent maintenance release at what’s midnight in your TZ and your patch doesn’t apply cleanly. That’s why every time something controversial happens there’s talk of “it’s time to fork” and no real, sustainable fork appears.
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#30This is deeply upsetting to me because I have continually pushed Firefox to friends and family as the only alternative to Google's strongarm dominance of our virtual lives. I have no other alternative to recommend my social circle and feel, daily, increasingly helpless to do anything about a future determined to shake down the miracle of humanity for pocket change. Mozilla Corp--the for-profit business arm of nonprof…
> It was not a paid placement or advertisement. I would like that people were more explicit in why they despise ads. For me it is because they are unsecure, often outside the control of the site owner and heavily rely on tracking. For a long time my impression of Mozilla is that they are trying to "sanitize" ads on the web by experimenting on advertisements that are non-tracking by design. (this does not cover cliqz,…
1. They're ugly.
2. They're insecure.
3. They spy on users.
4. They lie.
5. They are a form of psychological manipulation.
6. They encourage consumerism and wasteful spending.
7. They waste economic resources that could be better spent elsewhere. Customers are the ones who pay for a company's marketing budget.
8. They lead to centralization of power in large firms.