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Spending $5k to put Zimbabwe on Street View

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Re: Spending $5k to put Zimbabwe on Street View

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forgive me, I'm not up to date on Zimbabwe news. Why can't you get gas and cooking oil?

Economy is in tatters. The Zimbabwean dollar is worth less right now.

No Zim dollar, Zimbabwe uses the bond note which is officially pegged at 1:1 with the dollar. In reality it is going at 1:3.5 at current black market rates (which is the only place you can actually change your currency).

Re: Spending $5k to put Zimbabwe on Street View

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While I’m glad someone found a way to turn money into happiness, this feels like the Black Mirror future of the gig worker economy.

“We need a map of Kansas City using devices we provide you. We pay nothing up front, nothing at completion, and no residuals for profits we earn from your imagery. You may not keep the equipment we provide. You are responsible for all expenses.”

Who on earth would accept that Taskrabbit?

Re: Spending $5k to put Zimbabwe on Street View

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While this is a cool project and congrats to the guy, seriously, Google can't even cover the expenses for him and other people who do this kind of thing? How many people do this kind of thing, and how much would it cost Google to cover them all? How much would it cost them to cover a salary for them too, even a basic one? Do we have any way of trying to make a reasonable guess at that? Maybe Tawanda was aware of this and is still happy to do it, but for that not even to be commented on in the article is kinda weird.

Re: Spending $5k to put Zimbabwe on Street View

#24

While this is a cool project and congrats to the guy, seriously, Google can't even cover the expenses for him and other people who do this kind of thing? How many people do this kind of thing, and how much would it cost Google to cover them all? How much would it cost them to cover a salary for them too, even a basic one? Do we have any way of trying to make a reasonable guess at that? Maybe Tawanda was aware of this…

Google normally does pay people to do this. That's how most of the streets in high tech countries were mapped.

This guy just wanted to record his home country and street view was a good way to fuse it with map data, and publish it widely.

Google didn't ask him to do this, so why would they pay him? He wanted the photos published, Google has a place to do that.

Re: Spending $5k to put Zimbabwe on Street View

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post #24

While this is a cool project and congrats to the guy, seriously, Google can't even cover the expenses for him and other people who do this kind of thing? How many people do this kind of thing, and how much would it cost Google to cover them all? How much would it cost them to cover a salary for them too, even a basic one? Do we have any way of trying to make a reasonable guess at that? Maybe Tawanda was aware of this…

Google normally does pay people to do this. That's how most of the streets in high tech countries were mapped. This guy just wanted to record his home country and street view was a good way to fuse it with map data, and publish it widely. Google didn't ask him to do this, so why would they pay him? He wanted the photos published, Google has a place to do that.

I know Google normally do this with paid staff. But they do have a reasonably big volunteer pool too, and I think it's fair to ask about them. I've volunteered for many things before, and I know that often (as in this case, it sounds like) the volunteers do get something non-monetary out of it too. Just seemed worth commenting on, especially as the headline made such a point of how much money it was.

Re: Spending $5k to put Zimbabwe on Street View

#26

While this is a cool project and congrats to the guy, seriously, Google can't even cover the expenses for him and other people who do this kind of thing? How many people do this kind of thing, and how much would it cost Google to cover them all? How much would it cost them to cover a salary for them too, even a basic one? Do we have any way of trying to make a reasonable guess at that? Maybe Tawanda was aware of this…

The same thing could be said about wikipedia btw: In 2018 they received 104 million dollars (of which 2.3 went to pay for the servers), so if they wanted, they could actually get 100 million worth of content.

Re: Spending $5k to put Zimbabwe on Street View

#27

While I’m glad someone found a way to turn money into happiness, this feels like the Black Mirror future of the gig worker economy. “We need a map of Kansas City using devices we provide you. We pay nothing up front, nothing at completion, and no residuals for profits we earn from your imagery. You may not keep the equipment we provide. You are responsible for all expenses.” Who on earth would accept that Taskrabbit?

Presumably Google’s normal target market for the camera loans are museums, parks, shopping centres, local government tourism departments and suchlike.

I.e. organisations that think it’ll be a useful marketing effort, or it’ll help their customers.

Re: Spending $5k to put Zimbabwe on Street View

#28
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google normally does pay people to do this. That's how most of the streets in high tech countries were mapped. This guy just wanted to record his home country and street view was a good way to fuse it with map data, and publish it widely. Google didn't ask him to do this, so why would they pay him? He wanted the photos published, Google has a place to do that.

I know Google normally do this with paid staff. But they do have a reasonably big volunteer pool too, and I think it's fair to ask about them. I've volunteered for many things before, and I know that often (as in this case, it sounds like) the volunteers do get something non-monetary out of it too. Just seemed worth commenting on, especially as the headline made such a point of how much money it was.

I thought the headline was about how little money it was, not how much. I thought streetview cars were $100k+ and the article was about how the technology costs have fallen.

Obviously hearing the answer is “get a camera loaned for free” was a disappointment.

Re: Spending $5k to put Zimbabwe on Street View

#29

While I’m glad someone found a way to turn money into happiness, this feels like the Black Mirror future of the gig worker economy. “We need a map of Kansas City using devices we provide you. We pay nothing up front, nothing at completion, and no residuals for profits we earn from your imagery. You may not keep the equipment we provide. You are responsible for all expenses.” Who on earth would accept that Taskrabbit?

You can probably justify the expenses as "travel expenses" that you would have done anyway. If I was rich and had no job AND I had an important place that needed mapping, I wouldn't mind doing this just to get to play with the gadgets.
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