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Number of babies born in Japan is the lowest since records began

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Re: Number of babies born in Japan is the lowest since records began

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Recent social experiment (East/West Germany) proves one thing: people make babies, when their life is poor and dull. And on the global scale we can state that people make babies when they have no pension nor elderly care. And from nordic countries we can learn that free daycare is the baby killer number one. This is because you can make safely make babies "any time" and then you postpone it until too late. In America…

A whole slice of Japanese workers’ have life that squarely fall in “poor and dull”. The overworking cliche is only true to an extent, but still working poor people are plenty and their number rising could arguably be the main factor in the population demographic change. “I don’t make enough money to build a family” is a very prevalent sentiment looking around IRL and on social media, and seems to be corroborated by t…

The bottom 5% of people in Japan are still generally better off than the bottom 20% in places like America. Very few people are sleeping on the streets and kids aren't absolutely hopeless and joining gangs as a way out.

Japan is probably the best country to be poor in, because you can still afford rent, food, and health insurance and you don't need to worry about living in a crime-ridden area with a high risk of murder and robbery--because such neighborhoods literally do not exist. People are worrying about whether they can afford to have a kid and pay for daycare or still enjoy their summer vacation while hauling a baby around, not if they can afford to have anything to eat for the upcoming week.

Re: Number of babies born in Japan is the lowest since records began

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In a world with 7.7 billion people, why are declining birth rates almost always described as problem?

Because children in Africa are not going to finance retirement of japanese elderly.

Or at least, not without very substantial immigration.

Re: Number of babies born in Japan is the lowest since records began

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Recent social experiment (East/West Germany) proves one thing: people make babies, when their life is poor and dull. And on the global scale we can state that people make babies when they have no pension nor elderly care. And from nordic countries we can learn that free daycare is the baby killer number one. This is because you can make safely make babies "any time" and then you postpone it until too late. In America…

In Sweden atleast mothers are getting older and older (thanks to technology they are able to). Why? Because having a baby early in the career is usually more damaging to their careers than later on.

There is also a thing where families have their second child within 21 months of the first child. By doing this they avoid losing a cut of the parent insurance money.

Also in Sweden; dads stay at home with their children (3 months of the parent insurance which gives you something like 80% of your wage are exclusive to dads).

Sorry for the lack of sources. :(

Re: Number of babies born in Japan is the lowest since records began

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In a world with 7.7 billion people, why are declining birth rates almost always described as problem?

If you stand with one foot in a bucket of ice cold water and one foot in a bucket of scalding hot water, you're not comfortable on average.

The imbalance is a problem because of things like lone grandchildren inheriting the houses and wealth of four grandparents and others inheriting nothing. It's a problem because some areas have established fine education structures that cannot simply be shifted to another continent. It's a problem because the youths aren't where the jobs are, and haven't been educated by a system that's tuned to the jobs in that area. And so on.

Re: Number of babies born in Japan is the lowest since records began

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Good Idea actually. In Norway this issue was studied when it still was still politically possible. The probability of a baby becoming "marginaliserad" ie social fuck-up was 40% for single mothers, 20% for working mothers and "incredibly low" for full-time mothers. Babies have no absolute intrinsic value perse, this is why replacing natives with imported IQ-72 people does not work.

The "IQ-72" people do not have the gumption to leave their home countries in the first place.

Re: Number of babies born in Japan is the lowest since records began

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Do the Japanese do anything to making having children easier? Free daycare?

I don't believe monetary incentives are a good way to raise birth rates. In the end a child is massively expensive, and no government can afford to compensate parents completely.

Child care is partly such a monetary incentive (being subsidize and/or enabling parents to earn more), but women will still lose out greatly by giving birth. From what I know of Japanese culture, all these factors must be even worse than in the West...

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