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Re: Pixel 3 call quality issues

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Google Pixel 3 has serious customer service quality issues.

The problem here isn't the call quality, it is the customer service. This is typical Google. They might have many boffins working for them but they do not put the customer first and they don't appreciate the benefits of a customer first attitude. For a product that costs $$$ they should do it right, if they promptly dealt with customer service problems with real staff instead of outsourced 'ninjas' then they could turn customers with problems into their greatest brand ambassadors. In so doing they could convert a small army of people who prefer Apple but have ended up giving Android a spin into brand converts, spreading by word of mouth 'how much better Google is' and converting die-hard Apple fans into Google fans. But Google just don't get it. It is also cheaper to do customer service correctly than it is to have people left out there exasperated with the service they get.

Right now my sister is having trouble with their landline phone. They are cussing their broadband provider and blaming them. They have a retro 1980's phone that has 'always worked' but, after a house move and with a small child around, with unknown wiring in the new house it has to be the broadband provider that are to blame. Chances are that there is something wrong with the phone or the cabling inside their house. They are not willing to try a different handset (one with neat features like caller ID and no cord), they want to persist with the retro phone because it looks good, like the ones they grey up with. Sweet. They too have gone online and decided that the broadband provider are useless and that their services are off the mark. Yet there are many people with the same provider who have phones that work remarkably well, but, they have decided otherwise. Again, as per the Google problem here, there is a perceptual issue due to the poor quality of customer service.

Getting back to the Pixel 3, I had a phone with some stupid wallet style phone case that made it so I couldn't be heard on the phone. I was able to work out that it was the case and not the phone (or an app) but I too was grumbling about the quality of the phone before I realised that the problem was quite simple and had everything to do with the case and not the phone.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Pixel 3 problems were due to obvious but not so obvious problems in the majority of the cases and not some fundamental quality problem with the device. However, Google don't pick up the phone and talk to customers, they leave them to gang together on forums and make all their problems Google's fault, which it is. When will Google learn that in hardware the customer comes first and that customer service has to be done properly? It is such a shame as Google do put the customer first with their search and other software services, plus their design principles do a good job of embodying that.

Re: Pixel 3 call quality issues

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I got a pixel 3 primarily because of the camera. I'm the sort that used to lug around a dslr, then a Fuji x100 and eventually a Pixel. The Pixel 1 was the phone where for everyday applications, it was good enough and in such a small form factor it outweighed the better results of a heavier dedicated camera. Having said that, both my Pixel 1 and 2 died within 6 months of purchase. Pixel 1 was purchased in Jan 2017. Ha…

> If the Pixel 3 also dies within a few months, then I'm going to Apple build quality issues are not widespread to the whole android ecosystem. apple kind of get the crown as long term phones because software support and hardware warranties, but it's not as to say that there are no android phones that can match them in half life.

True though that may be, I think some people only want to buy the flagships because they can be assured of a certain level of quality (no shovelware, to start with) without having to go through hoops installing/uninstalling this or that, or potentially void the warranty with custom ROMs.

For those people, the alternative Android offerings just aren't on the radar.

Re: Pixel 3 call quality issues

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was Apple's argument in their case against Qualcomm's licensing costs. I always thought that was a weak stance. An iPhone without calls is just an iPod touch, which clearly doesn't have the appeal of an iPhone.

Except the Touch didn't have a data connection. 'Voice calls' isn't the killer feature of a contemporary smart phone, an always-on internet connection is.

Indeed. If iPod touches had cellular radios in them, I wouldn't need an iPhone — but then they'd probably also cost the same, so I'd just get an iPhone anyway.

Re: Pixel 3 call quality issues

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People use smartphones to make telephone calls? How does that work?

Apparently, they do. How quaint.

You may mock, but making good old fashioned phone calls is still the standard is business.

Do you really think every businessperson from every business on the planet is adding each other to each others' Skype lists or Facebook friends?

Re: Pixel 3 call quality issues

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This remembers me of my Blackberry Passport, loved the format, loved the keys, loved the 1:1 screen but I couldn't make calls or be called. One brand new is lying around here somewhere.

Minor correction: In English, we have two different words around remembering:

- "remember": This is when you think of a memory all by yourself, like "I remember when I was a child" or "I remember that I have to buy some milk"

- "remind": This is when something else makes you think of a memory, like "this lullaby reminds me of when I was a child" or "my phone reminded me that I have to buy milk"

In this case you want "remind".

(Thought I'd let you know because I know in some languages, these are one word)

Re: Pixel 3 call quality issues

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post #15

I got a pixel 3 primarily because of the camera. I'm the sort that used to lug around a dslr, then a Fuji x100 and eventually a Pixel. The Pixel 1 was the phone where for everyday applications, it was good enough and in such a small form factor it outweighed the better results of a heavier dedicated camera. Having said that, both my Pixel 1 and 2 died within 6 months of purchase. Pixel 1 was purchased in Jan 2017. Ha…

The Pixel 1 was the first time I'd ever sprung for a flagship phone, and it fell to the audio chip defect in under two years. It was effectively totaled (market value=$180, repair=$150+hours). Google Support was a complete waste of time. I replaced it with a second-hand iPhone 8 out of spite, even though I prefer Android to iOS.

Dismal support and privacy issues are making me seriously consider going back to the iPhone, even when I can't stand the lack of back function.

Re: Pixel 3 call quality issues

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Pixel 1 was the first time I'd ever sprung for a flagship phone, and it fell to the audio chip defect in under two years. It was effectively totaled (market value=$180, repair=$150+hours). Google Support was a complete waste of time. I replaced it with a second-hand iPhone 8 out of spite, even though I prefer Android to iOS.

Dismal support and privacy issues are making me seriously consider going back to the iPhone, even when I can't stand the lack of back function.

Mostly you can swipe in from the left edge to go back. It’s not 100% consistent so can be frustrating when it doesn’t work, but I seem to remember similar with the back button in Android.

Re: Pixel 3 call quality issues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently, they do. How quaint.

You may mock, but making good old fashioned phone calls is still the standard is business. Do you really think every businessperson from every business on the planet is adding each other to each others' Skype lists or Facebook friends?

> Do you really think every businessperson from every business on the planet is adding each other to each others' Skype lists or Facebook friends?

No I think they email each other.

Re: Pixel 3 call quality issues

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post #20

I got a pixel 3 primarily because of the camera. I'm the sort that used to lug around a dslr, then a Fuji x100 and eventually a Pixel. The Pixel 1 was the phone where for everyday applications, it was good enough and in such a small form factor it outweighed the better results of a heavier dedicated camera. Having said that, both my Pixel 1 and 2 died within 6 months of purchase. Pixel 1 was purchased in Jan 2017. Ha…

My Pixel 1 audio jack semi-failed. Nexus 5 was great, Nexus 6 also not bad.

You'll be happy to know that Google completely solved audio jack reliability issues with the Pixel 2 and 3.

Re: Pixel 3 call quality issues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may mock, but making good old fashioned phone calls is still the standard is business. Do you really think every businessperson from every business on the planet is adding each other to each others' Skype lists or Facebook friends?

> Do you really think every businessperson from every business on the planet is adding each other to each others' Skype lists or Facebook friends? No I think they email each other.

> No I think they email each other.

You never thought that some information needs to be received or conveyed in real time for efficiency?

I only check my email once an hour, maybe every couple of hours. If people need to get a hold of me instantly, they call… like normal people.

Even if I did check my mails more frequently, there's no guarantee that (A) I'm going to bother reading/responding to _every_ mail I receive, nor that (B) I will reply immediately.

Does everybody here really live in such a techno-bubble that they fail to see how the real world works?

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