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Excellent job moralizing, comrade.
What exactly is immoral about spying on a foreign nation state? We do it to them, they do it to us, what exactly is the issue? Is there some no-spying gentleman's agreement that's being violated, here?
Not surprising at all. What's surprising is that it's taken this long to appear in the news. While in the shipyards for maintenance I would stand watch and was responsible for letting people on/off a large ship. Most were contractors. The only requirement was that they had a contractor badge. How did we tell this was a valid badge? Good question. You'd think there would be some sort of master list of people with badg…
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@snowden sold us out to china when he fled in 2013, by revealing details about our spying operation on them. apparently they bolstered their defenses after this, due to this information, meanwhile stepping up offensive attacks against the United States
It seems like that is more appropriately attributed to USG's persecution of whistleblowers. I'd bet that Snowden would rather have not fled the US, but he did not have that option. You can't build on a broken foundation - exposing domestic anticonstitutional corruption is more important than the fallout to foreign policy.
There's no justification at all for informing any of our adversaries of details related to spying activity on them. Intentional or not, Mr. snowden's action have hurt USA.
> The victims have included large contractors as well as small ones, some of which are seen as lacking the resources to invest in securing their networks. That does not compute. If they want to become a defense contractor, it stands to reason not spending resources on securing their network (and educating their employees against phishing attacks) is a non-starter.
Why? You can be a “defense contractor” as a one person show out of your garage. The requirements for selling a toilet to the navy were written at a time when these issues didn’t exist. That the biggest bureaucracy on earth doesn’t respond well to new threats seems ecpected not odd.
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It seems like that is more appropriately attributed to USG's persecution of whistleblowers. I'd bet that Snowden would rather have not fled the US, but he did not have that option. You can't build on a broken foundation - exposing domestic anticonstitutional corruption is more important than the fallout to foreign policy.
Your comment temporally corresponded with multiple simultaneous downvotes of my comment. There's no justification at all for informing any of our adversaries of details related to spying activity on them. Intentional or not, Mr. snowden's action have hurt USA.
Even under pain of imprisonment and torture? Everyone has their limits.
> Mr. snowden's action have hurt USA.
Only if you believe that "USA" is equivalent to the "US Government". If you believe that the United States means something more, like perhaps a society founded on individual rights, equal protection under the rule of law, and a government constrained by its charter, then blowing the whistle on the domestic enemies in Maryland is extremely helpful.
Remember, it's not just China. It's North Korea, Russia, Iran, Isreal; any country facing significant military threats is interested in US weapons technology.
You live in a constitutional democracy on a planet where the mean, median, and mode country is a dictatorship? And don't want to defend that government? Really?
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Your comment temporally corresponded with multiple simultaneous downvotes of my comment. There's no justification at all for informing any of our adversaries of details related to spying activity on them. Intentional or not, Mr. snowden's action have hurt USA.
> There's no justification at all for informing any of our adversaries of details related to spying activity on them. Even under pain of imprisonment and torture? Everyone has their limits. > Mr. snowden's action have hurt USA. Only if you believe that "USA" is equivalent to the "US Government". If you believe that the United States means something more, like perhaps a society founded on individual rights, equal prot…
@snowden could have chosen to not told our adversaries about any spying activity upon them. Instead, he stole classified info that was far beyond the scope of domestic surveillance, in a pre-meditated way, then shared this with our adversaries.
"domestic enemies in Maryland" is entirely your opinion. Are you an American citizen? What exactly is your justification (beyond Hollywood propaganda, news articles, etc) for such a claim? Have you reviewed in detail what @snowden (and his co-conspirators) have leaked? How much was actually related to domestic surveillance? How much was classified military intel?
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Events like what? That people committing capital crimes for money are being caught, and convicted of... Said capital crimes? If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime. You don't just stumble into being an informant for a foreign power.
> Events like what? Killing dozens of people in secret without a proper trial. And the fact that it isn't an uncommon occurrence.
A non-trivial bit of the problem is the highly fashionable attitude of refusing to do work that helps the Department of Defense. The fact that skilled labor is a limited resource for both nations, which means refusing to help is at least similar to aiding foreign powers, which are statistically dictatorships of one kind or another, seems to not factor into the set of moral ethoses that such folks espouse. Remember, i…