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SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

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#21
Is this how it works??

consumer securities purchases protected by sipc

robinhood bank checking format:

deposit: money -> account -> robinhood backend securities purchased

withdrawal: robinhood backend securities sold -> account -> money

Is this the argument made by robinhood? Perhaps if that is laid out clearly in contract, i.e. robinhood is granted agent status to purchase and sale securities on behalf of consumer

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#22
post #5

Irrespective of if it is protected or not, surely there is some other catch? Normally impossibly high interest rates are time-limited or balance-limited. I think somebody mentioned this is a variable rate so presumably this is a marketing ploy and they'll put it down to 1.5% in 6 months.

Is there a "catch" when Uber rides cost less than the equivalent taxi ride, and in fact cost less money than the ride itself actually costs to provide? It's just VC money being burnt to acquire more market share. The intent isn't to be profitable on the actual services provided, but to grow revenue and profit on an eventual IPO.

VC money being burnt, yes. The true cost is additionally being offloaded to the drivers - taxi fares factor in things like insurance, wear and tear, etc, which Uber fares do not.

Re: SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

#23
post #11

> “I disagree with the statement that these funds are protected by SIPC,” Stephen Harbeck, president and chief executive officer of SIPC How the hell did this product get launched?

Probably because someone took "ask for forgiveness, not permission" a bit too far.

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#24
post #11

> “I disagree with the statement that these funds are protected by SIPC,” Stephen Harbeck, president and chief executive officer of SIPC How the hell did this product get launched?

It hasn't launched.

Their website says "Robinhood Checking & Savings is launching early 2019."

Re: SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

#25
post #5

Irrespective of if it is protected or not, surely there is some other catch? Normally impossibly high interest rates are time-limited or balance-limited. I think somebody mentioned this is a variable rate so presumably this is a marketing ploy and they'll put it down to 1.5% in 6 months.

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Re: SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

#26

It's a bit jaw dropping that they've launched this without talking to the SIPC to check that they agree with the statement that they provide FDIC-like protection on these accounts. I wonder what happened here…

Move fast towards to IPO exit, break users' personal finances. This is what happens when your growth team runs up against competent regulators.

Growth team = MBAs is that right?

Re: SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

#27
post #11

> “I disagree with the statement that these funds are protected by SIPC,” Stephen Harbeck, president and chief executive officer of SIPC How the hell did this product get launched?

You can open an Ameritrade or any other brokerage account and deposit money into the account with no intention of purchasing securities. There is no dispute that the SIPC would cover your account in that instance.

The only thing that has changed here is Robinhood is explicitly marketing their brokerage account as being able to be used as a savings account without any need to invest in securities.

It’s not black and white on either side. If there ever was a default event, it would surely go to court and it’s not 100% clear who would win. For that reason, I wouldn’t make use of the account.

Re: SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

#29
I don't understand the infatuation silicon valley has of Robinhood. Take almost every possible bad idea about personal finance and put them in an app, you get Robinhood. The business model is also suspect, I think there's a little more that hasn't been disclosed and I suspect the chase for cash started when the crypto currency fad started deflating in a hurry. I wonder if Robinhood is hiding something bigger under the covers.

Re: SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

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post #4

"“The statute that we administer says that we protect money with a brokerage firm that is used for the purchase of securities,” he added. “On Robinhood’s help page, it says that you don’t need to invest to use Robinhood checking and savings, that statement is wrong. If you deposit money for any other purpose, it is not protected.”" -- If they are using the deposit to then behind the scenes purchase a security directl…

The SIPC insures and protects consumers , not the brokerage/investment bank itself. So if the funds are deposited by the customer in order to buy securities on behalf of the customer, then it's protected. If the funds are deposited by the customer in order to pay out interest, and the only one with the intention of investing that money into securities is the brokerage itself, then it's not protected.

Got it, thanks for that!
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