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Re: No suspicious package or device found after scare at Facebook in Menlo Park

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Post by dymk »

sneak wrote: post #20
King-Aaron wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree, that's pretty scary to see someone go to that extent of planning. This is our peers that are being targeted for violence over the general state of the technology industry.

Fake bomb threats, regardless of how you feel about them, are not violence unless they are accompanied by a demand or seek to compel in some way. TBH as long as there are no real bombs and no one is physically harmed or coerced, I fully support this sort of nonviolent disruption of the surveillance apparatus.

Why are you trying to diminish how serious this is?

Bomb threats are terrorism.

> I fully support this sort of nonviolent disruption of the surveillance apparatus

The way you think actively harms people.

Re: No suspicious package or device found after scare at Facebook in Menlo Park

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Post by sfilargi »

sneak wrote: post #20
King-Aaron wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree, that's pretty scary to see someone go to that extent of planning. This is our peers that are being targeted for violence over the general state of the technology industry.

Fake bomb threats, regardless of how you feel about them, are not violence unless they are accompanied by a demand or seek to compel in some way. TBH as long as there are no real bombs and no one is physically harmed or coerced, I fully support this sort of nonviolent disruption of the surveillance apparatus.

Under law or according to your opinion?

Re: No suspicious package or device found after scare at Facebook in Menlo Park

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Post by neokantian »

Nowadays Facebook has so many enemies, State and non-State actors, that it is even impossible to determine who is behind this, unless the ones behind it, are willing to tell us. There is even an interesting opportunity to falsely accuse. Who are we going to appoint as being responsible? This is an excellent opportunity to black mouth a political adversary. Who are we going to pick?

Re: No suspicious package or device found after scare at Facebook in Menlo Park

#24

Post by joe_the_user »

anaccountwow wrote: post #7

At the same time, somebody blocked off the main road with a truck. https://i.imgur.com/IvmuPl3.jpg

Google tells me that truck is associated with an existing campaign against Facebook by vpn.com.

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/04/09/1466758/0/...

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22deletefacebook%22+%22truc...

Re: No suspicious package or device found after scare at Facebook in Menlo Park

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Post by sneak »

dymk wrote: post #21
sneak wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fake bomb threats, regardless of how you feel about them, are not violence unless they are accompanied by a demand or seek to compel in some way. TBH as long as there are no real bombs and no one is physically harmed or coerced, I fully support this sort of nonviolent disruption of the surveillance apparatus.

Why are you trying to diminish how serious this is? Bomb threats are terrorism. > I fully support this sort of nonviolent disruption of the surveillance apparatus The way you think actively harms people.

Yes, absolutely. Nonviolent terrorism is justified in many cases. Simply slapping the “terrorism” label on something to villify it doesn’t change the nature of the thing being described.

I am not trying to diminish how serious this is; I find this to be an admirable innovation in nonviolent disruption of those that would harm our society. It is surprising it hasn’t happened more or sooner.

Perhaps you could explain to me how my thoughts are harming other people.

Re: No suspicious package or device found after scare at Facebook in Menlo Park

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Post by sneak »

dymk wrote: post #19
acct1771 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you work for Facebook, at this point, you're not my peer.

This type of comment (and how divorced from reality it is) is an example of the problem.

People continuing to work for Facebook after they have demonstrated the harm that they cause is also an example of “the problem”, if you insist on there being only one.

Re: No suspicious package or device found after scare at Facebook in Menlo Park

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Post by nodesocket »

anaccountwow wrote: post #7

At the same time, somebody blocked off the main road with a truck. https://i.imgur.com/IvmuPl3.jpg

Do we have confirmation this was indeed at the same time? A comment below seems to indicate this truck was there previously.

Re: No suspicious package or device found after scare at Facebook in Menlo Park

#28

Post by Puer »

sneak wrote: post #25
dymk wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you trying to diminish how serious this is? Bomb threats are terrorism. > I fully support this sort of nonviolent disruption of the surveillance apparatus The way you think actively harms people.

Yes, absolutely. Nonviolent terrorism is justified in many cases. Simply slapping the “terrorism” label on something to villify it doesn’t change the nature of the thing being described. I am not trying to diminish how serious this is; I find this to be an admirable innovation in nonviolent disruption of those that would harm our society. It is surprising it hasn’t happened more or sooner. Perhaps you could explain t…

> Yes, absolutely. Nonviolent terrorism is justified in many cases. Simply slapping the “terrorism” label on something to villify it doesn’t change the nature of the thing being described.

> I am not trying to diminish how serious this is; I find this to be an admirable innovation in nonviolent disruption of those that would harm our society. It is surprising it hasn’t happened more or sooner.

This is one of the most disgusting and disturbing comments I've read in 10 years on Hacker News, sneak. Calling in fake bomb threats isn't harmless or nonviolent and it increases the deadliness of real threats by diminishing their seriousness. I suggest you read the folktale "The Boy Who Cried Wolf." Furthermore, people have died as a result of false swatting and I don't doubt people have also died as a result of fake bomb threats. Calling it a nonviolent form of protest is disturbing.

I strongly suggest you find more productive ways to voice your opinions.

Re: No suspicious package or device found after scare at Facebook in Menlo Park

#29

Post by dymk »

sneak wrote: post #25
dymk wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you trying to diminish how serious this is? Bomb threats are terrorism. > I fully support this sort of nonviolent disruption of the surveillance apparatus The way you think actively harms people.

Yes, absolutely. Nonviolent terrorism is justified in many cases. Simply slapping the “terrorism” label on something to villify it doesn’t change the nature of the thing being described. I am not trying to diminish how serious this is; I find this to be an admirable innovation in nonviolent disruption of those that would harm our society. It is surprising it hasn’t happened more or sooner. Perhaps you could explain t…

Hey @dang / mod team, I can't flag this post for some reason.

Could you take a look at this post, which advocates for bomb threats against companies he doesn't like?

Re: No suspicious package or device found after scare at Facebook in Menlo Park

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Post by King-Aaron »

sneak wrote: post #25
dymk wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you trying to diminish how serious this is? Bomb threats are terrorism. > I fully support this sort of nonviolent disruption of the surveillance apparatus The way you think actively harms people.

Yes, absolutely. Nonviolent terrorism is justified in many cases. Simply slapping the “terrorism” label on something to villify it doesn’t change the nature of the thing being described. I am not trying to diminish how serious this is; I find this to be an admirable innovation in nonviolent disruption of those that would harm our society. It is surprising it hasn’t happened more or sooner. Perhaps you could explain t…

Oh so bomb threats and crashing trucks is non-violent now.

ok

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