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Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Post by cyphar »

ACow_Adonis wrote: post #14

Is there a (non-alarmist/non-defensive/non-partisan) summary available of what the bill actually contains and what its practical effects might be?

I'd recommend actually reading the bill to form your own conclusions. The main problem is that it mostly is a series of amendments, and many of them are quite unrelated.

Most of the discussion is about the Technical Capability Notice section (which allows the government to compel a telecommunication provider, under threat of 5 years imprisonment, to create the ability to access communications otherwise inaccessible) but very few people are talking about the Computer Access Warrant sections...

And it's possible for employees to be forced to do this, and you cannot reveal information about these technical notices to your employer -- in fact you are given immunity from civil persecution precisely for this reason. So you now have to sabotage your employer because of an order by the Australian government. Good luck keeping your job.

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Post by artichokeheart »

To anyone with a business from anywhere else in the world. Yes please do, publicly and loudly, cease to deal with us (Australia) due to the very real possibility that all of you private and commercially sensitive communications will be monitored and recorded (Also given the five eyes agreement shared with other countries.) Australia already have a history of using their spy services for commercial gain. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia%E2%80%93East_Timor...

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Post by ENGNR »

artichokeheart wrote: post #22

To anyone with a business from anywhere else in the world. Yes please do, publicly and loudly, cease to deal with us (Australia) due to the very real possibility that all of you private and commercially sensitive communications will be monitored and recorded (Also given the five eyes agreement shared with other countries.) Australia already have a history of using their spy services for commercial gain. https://en.m.…

I second this. Please be vocal about how Australian's are now boycotted. We need the government to freak out

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Post by steve_taylor »

white-flame wrote: post #6

This is government-compelled labor, whose product is only of value to government, and which labors in direct opposition to the personal safety and well-being of the entire general population. Australia, you fail at the very notion of free western civilization.

It’s also government compelled lying.

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Post by steve_taylor »

cyphar wrote: post #17
ENGNR wrote: post #13

Doesn't this also effect git repositories maintained by Australians? (I say this as an Australian who wants secure software) All it takes is one malicious npm package

As an Australian software developer who has written encryption software in the past, I'm also very concerned. I'm also doubly concerned that projects will now reject my patches because of my nationality. What an amazing shitshow of a government.

I’m seriously considering moving from Australia to a country that isn’t part of the Five Eyes.

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Post by ACow_Adonis »

cyphar wrote: post #21
ACow_Adonis wrote: post #14

Is there a (non-alarmist/non-defensive/non-partisan) summary available of what the bill actually contains and what its practical effects might be?

I'd recommend actually reading the bill to form your own conclusions. The main problem is that it mostly is a series of amendments, and many of them are quite unrelated. Most of the discussion is about the Technical Capability Notice section (which allows the government to compel a telecommunication provider, under threat of 5 years imprisonment, to create the ability to access communications otherwise inaccessible)…

I very well may end up reading the whole thing, but that's partly why i'd actually like an expert summary, because my understanding is that these are amendments to existing legislation, and as a non-expert, the ability for me to be able to understand all the other legislation and implications that it works with is probably pretty close to zero...

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Post by steve_taylor »

ENGNR wrote: post #23
artichokeheart wrote: post #22

To anyone with a business from anywhere else in the world. Yes please do, publicly and loudly, cease to deal with us (Australia) due to the very real possibility that all of you private and commercially sensitive communications will be monitored and recorded (Also given the five eyes agreement shared with other countries.) Australia already have a history of using their spy services for commercial gain. https://en.m.…

I second this. Please be vocal about how Australian's are now boycotted. We need the government to freak out

As an Australian dev, I concur. I would rather our tech industry die (and I end up digging holes in a coal mine for a living) than have this country become a global spy hub used by governments to subdue their citizens.

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Post by keithnz »

TheChaplain wrote: post #4
lwansbrough wrote: post #3

Literally zero percent chance I touch any software made in Australia now.

Isn't Atlassian Australian? Or did they move?

So that means things like BitBucket / Trello are now all fair game to the Australian government?
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