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Re: New Satellites Will Hunt Pirates, and Maybe Terrorists

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> The company he formed in 2015 had a simple pitch to government agencies: “We convert a capital expense to an operation expense.” Raytheon Co., the giant defense contractor, was an early investor and customer. It has engineers working with Hawkeye’s 31-person team and, in turn, will sell some of the company’s findings to its own government customers. Essentially, open market spooks for hire, selling limited space in…

It’s been done with optical imagery for a while, but this is probably the first SIGINT.

So ... SIGINTaaS ?

Re: New Satellites Will Hunt Pirates, and Maybe Terrorists

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> The company he formed in 2015 had a simple pitch to government agencies: “We convert a capital expense to an operation expense.” Raytheon Co., the giant defense contractor, was an early investor and customer. It has engineers working with Hawkeye’s 31-person team and, in turn, will sell some of the company’s findings to its own government customers. Essentially, open market spooks for hire, selling limited space in…

The quote says more about Congressional incompetence than fancy innovation in technology.

Re: New Satellites Will Hunt Pirates, and Maybe Terrorists

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> Winston Smith actually could hide for a while. Actually, he couldn't. He thought he could hide. But we find out in the ministry of truth and room 101 that everything he did "secretly", like writing in his diary or his rendezvous with julia, were known to the authorities. But I agree, unless we wake up, I think a mix of 1984 and Minority Report style of dystopian future awaits us.

Not disputing this outcome, but what is your solution for violent piracy and it's effect on shipping?

Issue them with letters of marque and give them a list of what to attack, would be the established method. Though I am not sure if that is still considered acceptable.

Re: New Satellites Will Hunt Pirates, and Maybe Terrorists

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Winston Smith actually could hide for a while. Actually, he couldn't. He thought he could hide. But we find out in the ministry of truth and room 101 that everything he did "secretly", like writing in his diary or his rendezvous with julia, were known to the authorities. But I agree, unless we wake up, I think a mix of 1984 and Minority Report style of dystopian future awaits us.

Not disputing this outcome, but what is your solution for violent piracy and it's effect on shipping?

> what is your solution for violent piracy and it's effect on shipping?

This is what I don't understand. The economy of US, Russia, and other naval powers suffers because of piracy. New navy ships need field tests, new sailors need training. We're at peace time, so it's hard to do realistic trials.

Why not just station some navy ships in the pirate-infested areas? Have them hunt down and sink any violent pirate boats. Equip civilian ships with satellite-based "911" signal saying "we're at (lat, lon), we're under attack", so the combat vessels know where to look for targets?

Re: New Satellites Will Hunt Pirates, and Maybe Terrorists

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Not disputing this outcome, but what is your solution for violent piracy and it's effect on shipping?

> what is your solution for violent piracy and it's effect on shipping? This is what I don't understand. The economy of US, Russia, and other naval powers suffers because of piracy. New navy ships need field tests, new sailors need training. We're at peace time, so it's hard to do realistic trials. Why not just station some navy ships in the pirate-infested areas? Have them hunt down and sink any violent pirate boats…

I've read that they (the navies) are reluctant about adding firepower, because the pirates would so the same (or "natural selection" would mean the knife-wielding pirates will stay home and only the AK-47 and RPG-wielding ones will continue), which will mean all the ships would need defending against powerful pirates.

It's a bit like policing in the US.

A sister comment to yours has a saner opinion, I'd add why not fight the African poverty/corruption that cause these people to attack ships.

Re: New Satellites Will Hunt Pirates, and Maybe Terrorists

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> what is your solution for violent piracy and it's effect on shipping? This is what I don't understand. The economy of US, Russia, and other naval powers suffers because of piracy. New navy ships need field tests, new sailors need training. We're at peace time, so it's hard to do realistic trials. Why not just station some navy ships in the pirate-infested areas? Have them hunt down and sink any violent pirate boats…

I've read that they (the navies) are reluctant about adding firepower, because the pirates would so the same (or "natural selection" would mean the knife-wielding pirates will stay home and only the AK-47 and RPG-wielding ones will continue), which will mean all the ships would need defending against powerful pirates. It's a bit like policing in the US. A sister comment to yours has a saner opinion, I'd add why not f…

At one stage, non-armed-forces vessels were being permitted to carry semi- and automatic weapons under very stringent controls. If you imagine those locks on the duty-free drinks trolley on a plane, and upscale it: they could unlock the weapons in defined areas and were permitted to use force to repel attack from unidentified craft.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/piracy/8858159/Ar...

Re: New Satellites Will Hunt Pirates, and Maybe Terrorists

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It’s been done with optical imagery for a while, but this is probably the first SIGINT.

So ... SIGINTaaS ?

Exactly. They have given talks at the last few GRCon. They were initially geolocating AIS traffic.

Re: New Satellites Will Hunt Pirates, and Maybe Terrorists

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I've read that they (the navies) are reluctant about adding firepower, because the pirates would so the same (or "natural selection" would mean the knife-wielding pirates will stay home and only the AK-47 and RPG-wielding ones will continue), which will mean all the ships would need defending against powerful pirates. It's a bit like policing in the US. A sister comment to yours has a saner opinion, I'd add why not f…

At one stage, non-armed-forces vessels were being permitted to carry semi- and automatic weapons under very stringent controls. If you imagine those locks on the duty-free drinks trolley on a plane, and upscale it: they could unlock the weapons in defined areas and were permitted to use force to repel attack from unidentified craft. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/piracy/8858159/Ar...

That obviously invites an arms race with pirates, and probably reduces survivability of the crews. That's why I asked about a different solution - where merchant crews are unarmed, but armed forces provide separate, rapid response service with overwhelming force.
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