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SubEthaEdit 5 is now free and open source

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Re: SubEthaEdit 5 is now free and open source

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Post by kenneth »

Great story, and happy to see SubEthaEdit live on as open source software. Its main collaboration use case is still relevant and unique today. I'm glad they were at least able to get the technology integrated into Coda, and that they were able to make a modest revenue from that.

Unfortunately, as a primary code editor, it was never for me as an avid user of TextMate (and reluctant of Xcode) in the early days, before I finally learnt vim and never looked back around 8 years ago or so.

Re: SubEthaEdit 5 is now free and open source

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Post by z3t4 »

jspash wrote: post #8

I'm not meaning to take away anything from this announcement, which I think is great. But what options are there for collaborative coding in Sublime? (I don't use Atom) Having tried Floobits, the experience was ok. But I do a lot of pairing online with 0 day beginners, and need something as little setup as possible. ie. The students are able to install Sublime and Packages. Having to sign up for Floobits is just anot…

Why bring collaboration to Sublime instead of using any of the other editors that already supports it!? Is there for example some things that Sublime does better then the others!?

Re: SubEthaEdit 5 is now free and open source

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

z3t4 wrote: post #22
jspash wrote: post #8

I'm not meaning to take away anything from this announcement, which I think is great. But what options are there for collaborative coding in Sublime? (I don't use Atom) Having tried Floobits, the experience was ok. But I do a lot of pairing online with 0 day beginners, and need something as little setup as possible. ie. The students are able to install Sublime and Packages. Having to sign up for Floobits is just anot…

Why bring collaboration to Sublime instead of using any of the other editors that already supports it!? Is there for example some things that Sublime does better then the others!?

sublime is still much faster and more stable than anything else... the only time i switch to a jetbrains editor is when i need something heavy like java or android or flutter...

for example: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/63542 just look at the difference between sublime and vs code.

the new ui in vs code also made things slower: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/60419

Re: SubEthaEdit 5 is now free and open source

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Post by petercooper »

tlrobinson wrote: post #20
petercooper wrote: post #6

Oh nice. I forgot SubEthaEdit existed but it was first text editor on macOS before the TextMate hype in the early Rails days :-) While I support the right to release commercial products, I think it's very noble to open source things after a certain time, if only for the purpose of history and preservation.

BBEdit was probably the first editor for Mac OS X, though SubEthaEdit may have been first one native to OS X.

You're right. I went back and it appears I missed out the word "my" in "it was first text editor" without noticing :-D

Re: SubEthaEdit 5 is now free and open source

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Post by zem »

petercooper wrote: post #6

Oh nice. I forgot SubEthaEdit existed but it was first text editor on macOS before the TextMate hype in the early Rails days :-) While I support the right to release commercial products, I think it's very noble to open source things after a certain time, if only for the purpose of history and preservation.

every time i see an old commercial editor get open sourced, i feel a moment of sadness that [aurora](http://www-personal.umich.edu/~knassen/aurora.html) never went that route.

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Post by mrpippy »

tlrobinson wrote: post #20
petercooper wrote: post #6

Oh nice. I forgot SubEthaEdit existed but it was first text editor on macOS before the TextMate hype in the early Rails days :-) While I support the right to release commercial products, I think it's very noble to open source things after a certain time, if only for the purpose of history and preservation.

BBEdit was probably the first editor for Mac OS X, though SubEthaEdit may have been first one native to OS X.

BBEdit dates back to 1992, and I believe Tex-Edit is even older. CodeWarrior and BBEdit were both Carbonized for OS X very early (because developers needed them for bringing up other apps). I don't remember SubEthaEdit coming out until at least 10.2 (ISTR it had a different name for first release also)

Re: SubEthaEdit 5 is now free and open source

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Post by jtmcmc »

simonw wrote: post #4

I remember using SubEthaEdit at university for collaborative note taking in lectures back in 2003ish and it was like absolute wizardry. Really excited to see it open sourced. What a fascinating piece of software history. (Also: Carcassonne for iOS remains the best board game port I've ever played)

yes I felt the exact same way in the same year

Re: SubEthaEdit 5 is now free and open source

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Post by fitzroy »

I remember being at the O'Reilly Emerging Technologies Conference in the early 2000s. Lots of UNIX-loving people had just bought their first Mac laptops and basically the whole room was taking notes in a single SubEthaEdit doc via BonJour[1]. Some people were typing verbatim notes from panelists, others were going back and fixing typos and spelling, still others were researching topics that had been mentioned, contextualizing them, and adding links.

In the end we all had a clean, detailed, copyedited document. It was a pretty amazing experience. I was sure I'd just witnessed the future of collaboration for lectures and conferences[2].

[1]At the time, SubEthaEdit was called "Hydra" and BonJour was still "Rendezvous". [2]I guess the actual future turned out to mostly be scrolling though Twitter. c'est la vie.

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