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Re: Fine Uploader is shutting down

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What is this comment in response to?

>I've grown tired of continuously defending my inactivity and decisions against trolls on Twitter, the issue tracker, and elsewhere. It's draining and I don't have the patience or energy to deal with it any longer. These same people expect to impose their short-sighted and non-generalized values and goals on a project for which they have contributed nothing and are not willing to maintain. The sense of entitlement fr…

Thanks! I read it a couple of times and missed it each time. It was before my coffee, so I guess I'll blame that.

Re: Fine Uploader is shutting down

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> I've grown tired of continuously defending my inactivity and decisions against trolls on Twitter, the issue tracker, and elsewhere. It's draining and I don't have the patience or energy to deal with it any longer. These same people expect to impose their short-sighted and non-generalized values and goals on a project for which they have contributed nothing and are not willing to maintain. The sense of entitlement f…

Sorry you feel bad. That really sucks to get messages like that. Personally, I'd just ignore the noise and focus on the good. Remember, it is far easier to be a keyboard warrior than it is to create something awesome. People in the service industry see this all the time. A 1 star review on a restaurant really hurts. Everyone should know how much effort it is to run a restaurant and how much can easily go wrong... a b…

Thank you. I understand these folks are few amongst many, but boy, when you don't hear from the many, only from the few, it makes you think whether this was a mistake.

Regardless, I've removed all mentions of open source from my product (but kept the license unchanged), just so I won't have to deal with this again.

Re: Fine Uploader is shutting down

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Why even bother being on Twitter? I keep hearing developers encouraging each other to be active on Twitter, but who gives an actual fuck what goes on with Twitter? All it seems to do is generate drama on every front. Do developers(or anyone) really need to be on there? If I were the owner, I would have just closed my Twitter account in the face of demanding freeloaders.

I respect their right to be on Twitter in peace, but yeah I'd probably block users before I'd list Twitter complainers as a reason how I'm closing the lock on a popular library and throwing away the key instead of just walking away yourself... because that's definitely one way to get a lot of people (imo rightfully) complaining about what you did. Also kind of kills your credibility in the future. Walking away over t…

> Also kind of kills your credibility in the future. Walking away over toxicity is fine, doing it like this? Not so great.

Credibility, yeah. Sure, this guy gave away his work for seven years but can we trust him to work for free in the future?

Re: Fine Uploader is shutting down

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At the risk of sounding uncaring or such... Ok? I mean I don't get why the owner didn't try to find someone else to graciously take the reins without a fork (maybe they tried and couldn't find anyone?), but I don't get the dramatic post and very "taking my ball and going home" tone I'm getting. Again, maybe it's just me looking to wrongly but when 4 out of 6 reasons are referring to yourself and not the project... Th…

It seems like the owner was trying to find someone for over a year and nothing panned out:

https://github.com/FineUploader/fine-uploader/issues/1881

Re: Fine Uploader is shutting down

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Sorry you feel bad. That really sucks to get messages like that. Personally, I'd just ignore the noise and focus on the good. Remember, it is far easier to be a keyboard warrior than it is to create something awesome. People in the service industry see this all the time. A 1 star review on a restaurant really hurts. Everyone should know how much effort it is to run a restaurant and how much can easily go wrong... a b…

Thank you. I understand these folks are few amongst many, but boy, when you don't hear from the many, only from the few, it makes you think whether this was a mistake. Regardless, I've removed all mentions of open source from my product (but kept the license unchanged), just so I won't have to deal with this again.

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Re: Fine Uploader is shutting down

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> I've grown tired of continuously defending my inactivity and decisions against trolls on Twitter, the issue tracker, and elsewhere. It's draining and I don't have the patience or energy to deal with it any longer. These same people expect to impose their short-sighted and non-generalized values and goals on a project for which they have contributed nothing and are not willing to maintain. The sense of entitlement f…

Don't feel horrible.

Just because you wrote some open source at some time doesn't mean you have to open source everything you ever write.

No one can demand what you do with your free time, if they could it wouldn't be "free time".

Re: Fine Uploader is shutting down

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Thanks for that, great read. I think for my use case going with s3 will be easier and better for security. So how do I actually do it? Let users directly upload to s3 and have a lambda function call my server to store the url? If the image file is maliciously crafted, how does using s3 help, especially when serving the content? How can I set the headers when serving images from s3? And is there a way to identify that…

There is a few options, such as using AWS Cognito, or signed requests. I personally use signed requests which allows you to specify where and what type of files are allowed to be uploaded. First the user asks my server for a policy and signature, then uploads directly to S3, then sends another request to my server when done. My server will then verify and process uploaded files. Likewise requests can also be signed s…

Thanks for the explanation. Follow up question : how did you implement the signed cookies part?

Re: Fine Uploader is shutting down

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> I lack the free time at this point in my life to continue to maintain and develop a project of this scale, and the codebase has languished for a little while already.

> I've grown tired of continuously defending my inactivity and decisions against trolls on Twitter, the issue tracker, and elsewhere. It's draining and I don't have the patience or energy to deal with it any longer. These same people expect to impose their short-sighted and non-generalized values and goals on a project for which they have contributed nothing and are not willing to maintain.

> The sense of entitlement from a small but vocal minority that do not understand FOSS and refuse to understand it is very much a concern, and I'm simply not interested in shrugging that off anymore.

Not familiar with this project but would like to thank the author as well as all the other amazing open source contributors in the world for doing something that made/makes the world a better place.

I dream of a day when we have a solution to these problems. Where an engineer can get paid as much as they would at a job to fix those issues people raise. A platform that also allowed creators to block people who are clueless and unkind.

Some day we as a community will figure it out.

Re: Fine Uploader is shutting down

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I think the correct way to view this is as a courtesy notice that "Hey, that thing you might have used for free is being discontinued." That's it.

There is zero reason to expect FOSS developers to be schooled in good PR or something. He may think that spelling out his logic for his decision is useful information to other people. He may even be right about such an assumption.

I would not infer that he is intentionally being petty, kvetching per se, etc. It might be accurate, but who cares? He published a courtesy notice. He could have shut it down with zero announcement.

I am reminded of this comment I made 3 months ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17824166

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