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Want to Recruit Better Engineers? Open Source Your Code

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Re: Want to Recruit Better Engineers? Open Source Your Code

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I've known some brilliant engineers who don't care at all for open source code The obvious irony here is those "brilliant" engineers will use open source code even though they don't care for it.

If you go through your dev career thinking only people who write and use open source code are brilliant you'll miss out on the opportunity to learn from some of the industry's best developers. There are loads of people working on entirely closed source projects who are very, very good engineers. Not every project is web.

>If you go through your dev career thinking only people who write and use open source code are brilliant

I didn't said that. I have just pointed that even close source developers are using open source when working daily on their closed source projects. So saying they don't care about something they use daily is ....wrong. Also I didn't said anything about their level of brilliance :)

>Not ever project is web.

The snark level, off the charts....

Re: Want to Recruit Better Engineers? Open Source Your Code

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And here I sit, thinking that competent middle management that can actually evaluate people based on results delivered instead of attendance and therefore allows more flexible remote work instead of commuting 3 hours would help. No, open source.

Increased pay also helps. Flexible remote work is just not enough - you are still tied to incredibly expensive housing. You need full remote - so you could live uncommutable distance away.

Re: Want to Recruit Better Engineers? Open Source Your Code

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post #18

So here's some of the reason's they give for why Engineers want to work on Open Source: > They want to work in the open because it creates some visibility to them > The best companies align business needs with the desires of individual contributors (Engineers) to create their personal brand > Smart developers like to hang out with smart code. When you open source useful code, you attract talent. Some of these may pla…

Is there really a reason/data to think that open source companies are better places (better culture) to work at compared to another company of the same size? Or is it just assumption?

As a note, "open source companies" != "tend to open source more code".

There are relatively few open source companies. Most companies which distribute open source do so for part of the company which is not directly connected to revenue generation.

Re: Want to Recruit Better Engineers? Open Source Your Code

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post #16
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I was listening to a friend's music podcast tonight and they were talking about how industry will seize on any shred of creativity so that they can use it to sell cars, and this contributes to people getting defensive about the things they like becoming popular. There is a latent fear that just over the horizon, some marketing asshole is waiting to get their hands on something that is meaningful to you, in order to a…

It’s really difficult to have your engineering quality or culture NOT reflected in your open source projects. What are you going to do, keep the regular coders locked in the basement working on CRUD apps and a penthouse full of cool evangelist programmers writing OSS for no good reason? A company’s OSS is an excellent reflection of the people, decision making processes and culture that permeates it. Look at React, Go…

I know a company where they have this exact same setup. Ivory tower "elite" team + countless wtf teams writing crappy code.

Re: Want to Recruit Better Engineers? Open Source Your Code

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post #5

Anecdotally, I look at the public repos of any company advertising a job I'm interested in before I apply, so open source certainly attracts some class of developers. The problem is the assumption that people who do that are "better" in some way. I've known some brilliant engineers who don't care at all for open source code; they wrote great code that no one besides the customer would ever see or use. That doesn't ma…

>I've known some brilliant engineers who don't care at all for open source code The obvious irony here is those "brilliant" engineers will use open source code even though they don't care for it.

So? Just because your code is not open source does not mean you're not allowed to use it.

They might not care about the company they are applying to opensourcing their code. Plus you have to try really hard nowadays to not use any open source code at all

Re: Want to Recruit Better Engineers? Open Source Your Code

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you go through your dev career thinking only people who write and use open source code are brilliant you'll miss out on the opportunity to learn from some of the industry's best developers. There are loads of people working on entirely closed source projects who are very, very good engineers. Not every project is web.

>If you go through your dev career thinking only people who write and use open source code are brilliant I didn't said that. I have just pointed that even close source developers are using open source when working daily on their closed source projects. So saying they don't care about something they use daily is ....wrong. Also I didn't said anything about their level of brilliance :) >Not ever project is web. The sna…

> So saying they don't care about something they use daily is ....wrong.

Its not. They just dont care if something is open source or not. Maybe they would happily use a free, closed source library instead.

Re: Want to Recruit Better Engineers? Open Source Your Code

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post #5

Anecdotally, I look at the public repos of any company advertising a job I'm interested in before I apply, so open source certainly attracts some class of developers. The problem is the assumption that people who do that are "better" in some way. I've known some brilliant engineers who don't care at all for open source code; they wrote great code that no one besides the customer would ever see or use. That doesn't ma…

>I've known some brilliant engineers who don't care at all for open source code The obvious irony here is those "brilliant" engineers will use open source code even though they don't care for it.

So? Open source code doesn't make you any money. If anything brilliant people will not open source their solutions
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