Bejing institute of technology is roughly comaprable to UCSC. Calling them brightest seems overly glossy.
University of California at Santa Cruz?
China's brightest children are being recruited to weaponize AI
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#22In 1925, JBS Haldane, the biochemist, wrote Callinicus, A Defence of Chemical Warfare: http://jbshaldane.org/books/1925-Callinicus/haldane-callinic...
He was involved in the Brtitish chemical weapons program. There are some interesting arguments in that little volume, which apply equally well to AI killerbots.
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#23If I recall correctly, DARPA regularly hosts challenges where university teams try to solve problems that clearly have military applications. I know this can be seen as whataboutism but I feel the Western world might have gotten desensitized to its own activities in the sector, while looking warily at possible geopolitical competitors.
Whataboutism only really applies to state actors bickering when both are being hypocritical.
After all, it was created as a US propaganda term for saying that it is hypocritical for the USSR to propagandise the hypocrisy of the USA, when both governments are hypocrites.
Outside of that, it is called making comparisons and it is a completely valid thing to be doing.
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#24And this is why I'm glad Sam and Elon and everyone else started OpenAI. We need more people working towards benevolent AI/AGI to offer competition/opposition to state-funded AI/AGI that will almost certainly be used first and foremost for military applications.
I don't think OPENAI will make much difference. Companies & states will simply leech off OPENAI and copyright, trademark, patent or hide their own improvements.
From my understanding of OpenAI they plan to be open with their research but not necessarily share code.
Sure, anything they patent gives a foreign government a starting point and the U.S. government can use secrecy orders to prevent patents from being public or even flat out locking them down via things like the Invention Secrecy Act but I think OpenAI, and similar initiatives, will still considerably benefit mankind when they actually start to develop 'AI' with practical applications and certainly if they develop AGI.
For example with OpenAI this work they're doing with learning dexterity with the robotic hands could drastically assist amputees in the very near future by learning quickly from input from the user to make considerably more functional artificial limbs.
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#25China has cultivated in its people a very troubling mental complex centered on national pride and driven by the Century of Humiliation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation To say they are fervent about righting the wrongs and perceived wrongs of the past is an understatement. It's pretty much a driving force of life with many people. It's a powerful dynamic. And it's one that's held close to the ches…
So, like blacks in the US?
Re: China's brightest children are being recruited to weaponize AI
#26China has cultivated in its people a very troubling mental complex centered on national pride and driven by the Century of Humiliation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation To say they are fervent about righting the wrongs and perceived wrongs of the past is an understatement. It's pretty much a driving force of life with many people. It's a powerful dynamic. And it's one that's held close to the ches…
There must be actual Chinese people here on HN. Can any weigh in on the reality of this? It’s a heavy charge to make against an entire population.
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#27China has cultivated in its people a very troubling mental complex centered on national pride and driven by the Century of Humiliation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation To say they are fervent about righting the wrongs and perceived wrongs of the past is an understatement. It's pretty much a driving force of life with many people. It's a powerful dynamic. And it's one that's held close to the ches…
Being foreign born myself, I can see this pretty easily. When you have an external enemy outside of this country, the entire country will unite in that cause even in the endeavor to create very powerful weapons. (Think US affinity for nuclear proliferation during the cold war.) Few will pause to think that such weapons will be used against the best of our own people.
And that is the mentality difference between the US and China. US (having no real enemies) citizens see development of these weapons as potentially being used against its own citizens. Whereas Chinese citizens sees these weapons being to protect themselves from external threats.
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#28China has cultivated in its people a very troubling mental complex centered on national pride and driven by the Century of Humiliation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation To say they are fervent about righting the wrongs and perceived wrongs of the past is an understatement. It's pretty much a driving force of life with many people. It's a powerful dynamic. And it's one that's held close to the ches…
There must be actual Chinese people here on HN. Can any weigh in on the reality of this? It’s a heavy charge to make against an entire population.
Just to be clear，and I'm not saying your missed this distinction, but in case anyone did, I'm not talking about Chinese the race (which technically can be argued as consisting of many races, btw). I'm talking about what the education and state controlled media does to China's citizens who grow up in China.
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#29China has cultivated in its people a very troubling mental complex centered on national pride and driven by the Century of Humiliation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation To say they are fervent about righting the wrongs and perceived wrongs of the past is an understatement. It's pretty much a driving force of life with many people. It's a powerful dynamic. And it's one that's held close to the ches…
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#30China has cultivated in its people a very troubling mental complex centered on national pride and driven by the Century of Humiliation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation To say they are fervent about righting the wrongs and perceived wrongs of the past is an understatement. It's pretty much a driving force of life with many people. It's a powerful dynamic. And it's one that's held close to the ches…
wtf...how many Chinese people do you actually know in real life? I am betting zero.