WebRender is in beta • Hacker News Board

Re: WebRender is in beta

#21

Post by ammaskartik » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 3:53 PM UTC

Great work on this!

Re: WebRender is in beta

#22

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 3:56 PM UTC

Sammi wrote: post #4

Most up to date presentation on WebRender I could find: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXzLC6ArlgE Slides: https://github.com/MadRust/talks/blob/master/slides/meetup3_...

[deleted]

Re: WebRender is in beta

#23

Post by antonios » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 3:59 PM UTC

markdog12 wrote: post #2

> Kats is standing up WebRender in Firefox for Android I'm guessing "standing" should be "setting"? Anyway, doesn't seem to work just yet for nightly. I enabled in about:config, but get "unavailable by runtime: WebRender not ready for use on non-e10s Android". Also, "WEBRENDER_QUALIFIED: blocked by env: Has battery" I filtered by e10s and electrolysis in about:config but couldn't find anything

Me too. A bit of Googling told me that if you set the variable MOZ_WEBRENDER=1 it enables it. That worked.

Re: WebRender is in beta

#24

Post by tamasnet » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 4:10 PM UTC

For anyone (like me) not familar with WebRender, here's a great writeup: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/10/the-whole-web-at-maximum-f...

Also a great read for anyone interested in long-form technical articles that try to serve a wide range of reader types.

Re: WebRender is in beta

#25

Post by sandyarmstrong » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 4:36 PM UTC

sciurus wrote: post #15

rapsey wrote: post #6

Does it work on macOS atm?

Yes, I'm using it in Firefox 65.0a1 on a 15" 2017 MBP running High Sierra. After setting gfx.webrender.all to true and restarting, check about:support and you should see "Compositing: WebRender" Of course you may still hit bugs.

I think it's still disabled on beta for Mac laptops, but it could just be that I have an older (2014) MBP than you do.

Re: WebRender is in beta

#26

Post by Serow225 » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 4:41 PM UTC

ergothus wrote: post #20

Serow225 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me it's very common in the tech community. Maybe a transfer from the embedded/sysadmin/DBA side of things, from what I've seen its usage move over time.

You aren't used to hearing about "standing up" new servers?

I must have written my text poorly, that's what I intended to convey; that in my experience the term's popularity started in the embedded/sysadmin/dba communities and then spread to the wider tech communities. Sorry! :)

Re: WebRender is in beta

#27

Post by actionscripted » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 4:55 PM UTC

Enabled in FF Nightly 65.0a1 (2018-10-26) (64-bit) and it felt a little sluggish especially with regards to scrolling. I understand it's in beta but I guess I was expecting things to "feel" faster. Tried resizing larger sites/pages and things felt snappy but scrolling felt jumpy and off.

That said, can't wait for this to come out of beta!

Re: WebRender is in beta

#28

Post by pohl » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 5:54 PM UTC

robin_reala wrote: post #3

markdog12 wrote: post #2

> Kats is standing up WebRender in Firefox for Android I'm guessing "standing" should be "setting"? Anyway, doesn't seem to work just yet for nightly. I enabled in about:config, but get "unavailable by runtime: WebRender not ready for use on non-e10s Android". Also, "WEBRENDER_QUALIFIED: blocked by env: Has battery" I filtered by e10s and electrolysis in about:config but couldn't find anything

Standing up here means getting into a working but unfinished state. It’s a slightly uncommon turn of phrase, but it’s legit English.

I hear this phrase frequently in programming. In order to get your program running, you first have to make it stand up.

Re: WebRender is in beta

#29

Post by dochtman » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 6:01 PM UTC

jamienicol wrote: post #16

markdog12 wrote: post #2

> Kats is standing up WebRender in Firefox for Android I'm guessing "standing" should be "setting"? Anyway, doesn't seem to work just yet for nightly. I enabled in about:config, but get "unavailable by runtime: WebRender not ready for use on non-e10s Android". Also, "WEBRENDER_QUALIFIED: blocked by env: Has battery" I filtered by e10s and electrolysis in about:config but couldn't find anything

It doesn't yet work on fennec (regular Firefox for Android, which is non-e10s). Instead we're working on it for geckoview.

I keep wondering about GeckoView vs Fennec. Surely Fennec already contains something much like GeckoView, so what will the difference be and when will (Nightly) Fennec switch?

Re: WebRender is in beta

#30

Post by dochtman » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 6:02 PM UTC

sciurus wrote: post #15

rapsey wrote: post #6

Does it work on macOS atm?

Yes, I'm using it in Firefox 65.0a1 on a 15" 2017 MBP running High Sierra. After setting gfx.webrender.all to true and restarting, check about:support and you should see "Compositing: WebRender" Of course you may still hit bugs.

These days I don't see many bugs. I hit a crash this week, but it was fixed within a day.