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Re: Need a study break to refresh? Maybe not, say Stanford researchers

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Funnily enough, I actually take a nap sometimes when I can't figure out the solution to a problem or I'm going around in circles. Perhaps it's not realy sleep, but more often than not I wake up with the solution, or at least more ready to tackle the solution. I've also found almost ubiquitously that whatever had me completely confounded the night before is a hell of a lot easier to work out in the morning. Perhaps it…

It's tempting to draw a sports/body analogy. Repetition sets up your body for change. Rest and recovery (including sleep) is when you actually change.

Re: Need a study break to refresh? Maybe not, say Stanford researchers

#22
post #14

> This really bothered me. Maybe if you think that willpower is not easy depleted, it is because you have more of it than the people who think it is. This being said, I personnaly believe that if willpower is limited, it can at least be trained to seem like it isn't.

They covered that objection in the paper, which is available free on the website of one of the authors: http://www.stanford.edu/~gwalton/home/Publications_files/Job...

In study #2, they manipulated people's beliefs about willpower by administering a "push poll", and then tested willpower depletion.

Re: Need a study break to refresh? Maybe not, say Stanford researchers

#23
post #17

The article sort of pits this study and theory of ego depletion as mutually incompatible, but I think that's probably an exaggeration, either by the author of the article or the authors of the paper. That beliefs can influence ego depletion is not a new finding, nor is it inconsistent with there being a physiological basis. It doesn't even really sound like they are addressing the theory itself but some particular im…

"It doesn't even really sound like they are addressing the theory itself but some particular implication."

Agreed. This is just another priming study-- NOT a willpower study. Here's another:

"But the priming effect does not just affect our behavior. It can also, incredibly, have significant effects on our actual performance. In another study cited by Gladwell, two groups of students were asked to answer forty-two questions from the game Trivial Pursuit. But first, one group was first asked to sit and think about professors, the other to think about soccer hooligans. And the difference was dramatic: an average of 55.6% of the questions were answered correctly by the first group, while only 42.6% were answered correctly by the second. How can these results be explained? Can priming somehow temporarily infuse the brain with an expanded store of facts? Obviously not. Instead, what seems to be happening is that encouraging people to "think smart" briefly increases mental qualities like their ability to focus, their sense of recall, and their ability to quickly and correctly integrate diverse pieces of information. In other words, priming does not make us more intelligent, but it does briefly make us better at using the intelligence we already have." [1]

The scarier one is about race:

"The psychologists Claude Steele and Joshua Aronson created an even more extreme version of this test, using black college students and twenty questions taken from the Graduate Record Examination, the standardized test used for entry into graduate school. When the students were asked to identify their race on a pretest questionnaire, that simple act was sufficient to prime them with all the negative stereotypes associated with African Americans and academic achievement - and the number of items they got right was cut in half..."

1: grabbed from http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/01/priming-the-mind.html

Re: Need a study break to refresh? Maybe not, say Stanford researchers

#24

> "But if you think of willpower as something that is not easily depleted, you can go on and on." That's the problem. Going on and on and on. Usually when it comes to any complex task, going on and on and on is a BAD thing. Forcing yourself to take breaks at a set interval makes you realize and optimize what it is you have actually been spending time on. And assess the next direction to take. Working without taking b…

Yeah, the article has nothing to say about the effectiveness of the work being done, just that you are "working". I can bang my head against a problem all day long, but I'll find the answer in the shower.

Work smarter, not harder, right?

Re: Need a study break to refresh? Maybe not, say Stanford researchers

#25
post #14

> This really bothered me. Maybe if you think that willpower is not easy depleted, it is because you have more of it than the people who think it is. This being said, I personnaly believe that if willpower is limited, it can at least be trained to seem like it isn't.

They covered that objection in the paper, which is available free on the website of one of the authors: http://www.stanford.edu/~gwalton/home/Publications_files/Job... In study #2, they manipulated people's beliefs about willpower by administering a "push poll", and then tested willpower depletion.

In study #2, they manipulated people's beliefs about willpower by administering a "push poll", and then tested willpower depletion.

How did they determine how well the push poll influenced that belief? How did they ensure it didn't work better on those who already had less willpower?

Re: Need a study break to refresh? Maybe not, say Stanford researchers

#26
Study breaks are not about replenishing willpower. They are about giving the brain some quiet time to organize the newly acquired information. Apparently, mental activity interferes with this organization process. I remember covering this 20 years ago in my psych classes. Researchers actually had one experimental group that reviewed an outline during their "break," another that took a nap, and another that was sedated. The sedated group actually retained the most information!

Now this is such common knowledge, it's hard to find the original research with a Google search. This makes me suspicious. Anyone have a reference?

Re: Need a study break to refresh? Maybe not, say Stanford researchers

#27

So, if I just BELIEVED that I could keep studying last night for my algorithms exam today, I could have stayed up all night and had a good study session? I wish I had believed that...

Not sleeping is counter productive to the goal of learning and retaining information.

Re: Need a study break to refresh? Maybe not, say Stanford researchers

#28

> "But if you think of willpower as something that is not easily depleted, you can go on and on." That's the problem. Going on and on and on. Usually when it comes to any complex task, going on and on and on is a BAD thing. Forcing yourself to take breaks at a set interval makes you realize and optimize what it is you have actually been spending time on. And assess the next direction to take. Working without taking b…

I like the driving analogy. It seems that whenever I'm working on a tough programming problem, if I decide to go for a walk I'll get a "eureka" moment within a couple minutes of going outside.

There's a disturbing tendency for the eureka moment to be, "Aha! I don't even need to write this program in the first place."

Re: Need a study break to refresh? Maybe not, say Stanford researchers

#29
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They covered that objection in the paper, which is available free on the website of one of the authors: http://www.stanford.edu/~gwalton/home/Publications_files/Job... In study #2, they manipulated people's beliefs about willpower by administering a "push poll", and then tested willpower depletion.

In study #2, they manipulated people's beliefs about willpower by administering a "push poll", and then tested willpower depletion. How did they determine how well the push poll influenced that belief? How did they ensure it didn't work better on those who already had less willpower?

Did you not want to read the paper? It's really short and clearly written.

They just randomly assign people to group A or B. Group A is told about the actual theory that willpower is a finite resource (“Working on a strenuous mental task can make you feel tired such that you need a break before accomplishing a new task”). Group B is told a competing theory that willpower compounds (“Sometimes, working on a strenuous mental task can make you feel energized for further challenging activities”). They administered surveys to confirm that they had successfully influence each groups opinions.

Then, the experimenters tested the degree to which using willpower became harder or easier throughout a task. On average, group A exhibited willpower fatigue but group B did not.

Re: Need a study break to refresh? Maybe not, say Stanford researchers

#30
post #10
post #4

I still think that frequent breaks are important as they help change thinking patterns.

Is that a good example of what the article states though? "The belief in it is what influences your behavior."

No, I don't think so. I was referring to emptying your short term memory so that unwanted thoughts don't disturb your thinking.
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