ProtonVPN is the same company as ProtonMail. The company has had a good rep, reminds me of Lavabit.
Mozilla Announces Experimental Partnership with ProtonVPN
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#22Honest question: Why not bundle Tor, instead of relying on a proprietary VPN service? It seems that Tor satisfies the advertised use case ("insecure public WiFi") just as well.
That's already happening. Tor and Firefox are working together to make Tor network the default within private browsing mode. A number of privacy-related patches from Tor have already landed in Firefox (example: Firefox now has first-party isolation). It's a slow progress, but it's on its way. If you're interested about more, the project is called Project Fusion: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Fusion There was a di…
Awesome, thanks for bringing this to my attention! Good to hear that this is being worked upon.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Make no mistake, Mozilla Corporation is a for-profit entity. They're owned by a nonprofit shell, but I imagine that nonprofit could easily sell them off. This puts them in the same boat as say, IKEA.
Like when they slipped a Mr. Robot plugin into the download without telling people? https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/16/16784628/mozilla-mr-robo...
I must be the only one who thought this was a non-issue. A molehill turned into a mountain.
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#24Honest question: Why not bundle Tor, instead of relying on a proprietary VPN service? It seems that Tor satisfies the advertised use case ("insecure public WiFi") just as well.
Is Tor still super slow?
It isn't for me. Nowadays I never not surf using Tor. Even video platforms work without any bothersome delay.
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#25This is a little vague on the technicals, but it sounds like you would be downloading and installing the full VPN service as if you had obtained it directly from ProtonVPN? i.e. this isn't a browser plugin? It'd be interesting if there were some tie-ins with the browser, like perhaps separate VPN connections per container (not sure this is possible, I'm no expert).
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#26Honest question: Why not bundle Tor, instead of relying on a proprietary VPN service? It seems that Tor satisfies the advertised use case ("insecure public WiFi") just as well.
Because bundling Tor in Firefox would generate so much traffic it would take down the network. Tor needs to grow significantly before that integration is possible.
I guess this nudges me to host a middle node!
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#27i would not have minded if mozilla had offered their own vpn service, trusting some third party sounds like a bad idea.
would you have purchased it?
I think many people, myself included.
For better or worse, Mozilla managed to brand itself as the equivalent of the open internet and an organisation that would put the users first.
This is quite important in today's world that's full of Googles, Facebooks, Microsofts etc.
That doesn't mean that Mozilla has done nothing wrong. I'm just saying that I would feel much better having a VPN service run by Mozilla as opposed to a VPN being run by Facebook.
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#29Honest question: Why not bundle Tor, instead of relying on a proprietary VPN service? It seems that Tor satisfies the advertised use case ("insecure public WiFi") just as well.
Is Tor still super slow?
Slower, but not super slow. Latency is significantly higher, if you're used to ~10ms ping from your home to your data center.
Grabbing a page from my website over tor and over normal network:
curl http://mywebsite
curl https://mywebsite
curl --proxy socks://127.0.0.1:9050 http://mywebsite
curl --proxy socks://127.0.0.1:9050 https://mywebsite
0.028s / http
0.063s / https
0.394s / tor http
1.079s / tor https
0.302s / tor http
0.598s / tor https