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The Scottish Register of Tartans

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Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

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Post by mlmartin »

The Debian GNU/Linux distribution has it's own tartan too, the interesting detail being it contains morse code:

https://wiki.debian.org/Tartan

https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartandetails?ref=5936

"This is the tartan of The Debian Project: an association of individuals who work together to create a free operating system that is called Debian GNU/Linux, or simply Debian for short. In 2007 Debian held its eighth annual gathering of developers from all over the world in Edinburgh, and the tartan was designed to celebrate that fact. The colours are references to various logos: Reds for the Debian swirl, Blue for Captain Blue-Eyes (the old Debian logo), and Yellow, Black & White for Tux, the Linux logo. If the image is rotated 180 degrees, the White can be seen to be arranged so as to spell out DEBIAN in Morse code (with a correct 1:3 ratio for dots to dashes, and for the pauses in and between letters)."

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

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Post by murph-almighty »

oytis wrote: post #20
teh_klev wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What seems weird about those details? Seems to cover all the things you need to make a payment over the phone.

Isn't paying with credit card over phone weird enough? Anyone eavesdropping on the phone line gets full access to your card details, not to say that the person on the other side of the line gets it. Normally I would expect an https-protected webform of a trusted payment processor.

I agree that this practice is pretty insecure but this is pretty common. I've paid for pizza delivery like this before because a lot of local places won't give their drivers a card reader.

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

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Post by tempodox »

mlmartin wrote: post #21

The Debian GNU/Linux distribution has it's own tartan too, the interesting detail being it contains morse code: https://wiki.debian.org/Tartan https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartandetails?ref=5936 "This is the tartan of The Debian Project: an association of individuals who work together to create a free operating system that is called Debian GNU/Linux, or simply Debian for short. In 2007 Debian held its eighth ann…

I was just about to remark that we should have tartans for programming languages.

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

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Post by 7000skeletons »

peteretep wrote: post #10
arethuza wrote: post #2

As a Scot, I was slightly surprised to see that this is actually an official Scottish Government service! Edit: I should have guessed by the domain.

As much as a lot of tartan-lore is revisionist, selling pretty cloth to credulous tourists and Americans-craving-heritage is big business.

Fun fact, the majority of the "tourist trap" shops you see dotted up and down the Royal Mile in Edinburgh are actually owned by the same family. Who are originally from India, I think. The whole thing's pretty hilarious.

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

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Post by bovermyer »

oytis wrote: post #20
teh_klev wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What seems weird about those details? Seems to cover all the things you need to make a payment over the phone.

Isn't paying with credit card over phone weird enough? Anyone eavesdropping on the phone line gets full access to your card details, not to say that the person on the other side of the line gets it. Normally I would expect an https-protected webform of a trusted payment processor.

Are you sure this is as uncommon as you suggest?

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

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Post by ghaff »

oytis wrote: post #20
teh_klev wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What seems weird about those details? Seems to cover all the things you need to make a payment over the phone.

Isn't paying with credit card over phone weird enough? Anyone eavesdropping on the phone line gets full access to your card details, not to say that the person on the other side of the line gets it. Normally I would expect an https-protected webform of a trusted payment processor.

It's less common than it used to be but it's still incredibly common to to give a credit card number over the phone to pay for something (primary experience in US).

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

arethuza wrote: post #7
ggm wrote: post #5

The good thing about this, is it puts tartans into a modern IPR context and sheds the Walter Scott fake history. It's no different to burberry trademarking it's red flash check. All the clan/sept/hunting/dress stuff is a giant fantasy of post Regency construction. Harris Tweed on the other hand, is much more a "thing" and deserves its restricted mark for heritage reasons. Cornish sailors knitting patterns next!

Yeah - a lot of traditions were "revived" (i.e. invented) for the visit of King George IV to Scotland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visit_of_King_George_IV_to_Sco... Which is ironic given the almost ethnic cleaning levels of treatment given to Highlanders and their culture following the '45 and the later Clearances: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Culloden#Aftermath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Cle…

I can loosely trace my family to those events. History gets blurry before the clearances and the Jacobite revolution.

Fairlie and Kilmarnock in Ayrshire. After that the family was only listed in Broxburn and Uphall mining towns outside of Edinburgh.

edit: Got a name wrong. Kilmarnock in Ayrshire, but also were around Kirkliston near Edinburgh along with the other two towns later on.

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

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Post by oytis »

bovermyer wrote: post #25
oytis wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't paying with credit card over phone weird enough? Anyone eavesdropping on the phone line gets full access to your card details, not to say that the person on the other side of the line gets it. Normally I would expect an https-protected webform of a trusted payment processor.

Are you sure this is as uncommon as you suggest?

I have seen it only once so far when one minor German publisher asked me to send the same details per snail-mail. Luckily they also had other options.

I can't really know how common it is in UK, never been there, but I would definitely be surprised.

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