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Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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post #9

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religion is a facet, or component of ideology.

I would not describe the defining parts of buddhism as ideological so much as philosophical and sensuous. I’m not sure a good definition of religion exists. You’re being hugey reductive.

Sure it's not a western religion but it's a religion.

If you remove all the cosmology and mysticism from Buddhism, you are left with something other than the original practice.

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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post #17

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zizek says that the book of job is the first critique of ideology, and he calls himself a christian atheist because he thinks becoming an atheist is only possible by going through christianity. so you have it exactly backwards. or maybe not, who the hell knows with hegelians.

Do you know where he writes about that? I'd be interested to read more.

https://youtu.be/sQ3g2zS6Tuk?t=3m14s

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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post #8

Understanding how modern philosophy understands ideology is important. I bemoan hearing american-liberals discuss how people don't, " share common truth " anymore. In reality this is a decoupling of the DNC, and RNC's ideology. They are no longer one and the same, so what is considered " true " by either has changed, irreparably. The problem is most Americans politics had a unified ideological understanding of the wo…

> I bemoan hearing american-liberals discuss how people don't... I think the point is that "bemoaning" that is an ideology in itself. So your own reality is "augmented" with a belief set that is, likely, not terribly representative of reality. You've simply filled in the gaps in everyday experiences with something that you can, at once, understand, and is comfortable to you.

I bemoan the ideology of others, and you bemoan mine. Perchance we’ve more in common then you would think.

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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My theory here is really sloppy, but in this topic I think there are two concepts worth examining: * Baudrillard's ideas on the hyperreality , which is basically a simulation that doesn't actually relate to any underlying reality. He argued that a lot of the signs and symbols in our postmodern society have become hyperreal, purely manufactured artifacts. * Deleuze's concept of virtuality which he defines as something…

Virtuality is arguably only less real in terms of its very dependence on the Real, in that you cannot you have virtual worlds without the physical worlds that generate and power them.

I think as we go along, a lot of Baudrilliard's ideas that seemed radical in the 1980s are becoming inert, as they are so ingrained in our everyday experience (eg, hyper-reality, the simulacra, etc). At least in this iteration of the technology. Moving into mass-scale mixed reality environments will be an entirely different proposition.

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I bemoan hearing american-liberals discuss how people don't... I think the point is that "bemoaning" that is an ideology in itself. So your own reality is "augmented" with a belief set that is, likely, not terribly representative of reality. You've simply filled in the gaps in everyday experiences with something that you can, at once, understand, and is comfortable to you.

I bemoan the ideology of others, and you bemoan mine. Perchance we’ve more in common then you would think.

Actually, I don't bemoan your ideology. (In fact I suspect I hold the exact same ideology.) I'm just pointing out that we are ideologues. And like all ideologues, our ideology allows us to coexist comfortably with the actual reality we live in. Even though it's highly unlikely that the underlying reality is consistent with our ideology.

This would be true of ALL ideologues. That's my point. In my opinion, nearly every human on Earth, is likely an ideologue. And this model, or analogy, of AR as ideology, is a pretty good representation of that state of affairs.

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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I think the truth is simpler. Ideology and games both present people with an escape from their lives. Life terrible? Play some WoW, and you'll at least be guaranteed slow and steady progress instead of an ongoing backwards slide into poverty. Ideology (particular racist ideologies, as the article and to focus on) offers a similar alternative game to play. Failing at life? Start competing against a minority team that's even worse off, either economically or physically.

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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Understanding how modern philosophy understands ideology is important. I bemoan hearing american-liberals discuss how people don't, " share common truth " anymore. In reality this is a decoupling of the DNC, and RNC's ideology. They are no longer one and the same, so what is considered " true " by either has changed, irreparably. The problem is most Americans politics had a unified ideological understanding of the wo…

This is the problem of the leftists. They removed the foundations of culture (for good reasons), but never replaced it with something as solid.

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

#29

My theory here is really sloppy, but in this topic I think there are two concepts worth examining: * Baudrillard's ideas on the hyperreality , which is basically a simulation that doesn't actually relate to any underlying reality. He argued that a lot of the signs and symbols in our postmodern society have become hyperreal, purely manufactured artifacts. * Deleuze's concept of virtuality which he defines as something…

If you want to tap into French po-mo stuff, the more relevant reference here is probably Lyotard's metanarratives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metanarrative

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

#30
I found this article worthless, pretentiously worthless at that (WMDs? Really?). Stories augment the human experience of reality, as do social constructs, as does language, but I am too dumb to understand why that's news. What is the point he is trying to argue? That there are seven AR Pikachus dancing in the head of every philosopher?
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