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Re: Fair Trending: Objectively-Ranked Trending YouTube Videos

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post #19

The initial page it showed me was a trainwreck of absolute garbage. I think they need to go and work on their sums a bit more.

Because people watch absolute garbage. There's no algorithmic solution to that.

there is an alogorithmic solution - it's the one youtube uses for their trending page, which is subjectively far superior to this "objective" and "fair" listing.

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post #3

This is a great idea. I also wanted to create a platform like this one however allow people to sync their list of subscribed channels from YouTube. As you know, the subscriptions feed is now optimized on YouTube and not all new content from your subscribed channels find their way into your feed anymore. This platform that I was thinking would basically bring that back, however under a different domain with a better U…

I made a simple version of this as a command line program that can subscribe to channels and generate a html page with chronological video thumbnail links, no server/syncing though : https://github.com/dxwc/vidlist

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post #19

The initial page it showed me was a trainwreck of absolute garbage. I think they need to go and work on their sums a bit more.

Because people watch absolute garbage. There's no algorithmic solution to that.

There is. After logging in and liking dozens of videos, their algorithm will come up with some pretty decent recommendations, in my experience.

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post #6
post #2

Not sure if it helps much. It still looks like the same clickbaity garbage that's in my regular trending tab.

Though it seems to be a different list of clickbaity garbage from https://m.youtube.com/feed/trending which is sort of interesting.

I’m reasonably sure the YouTube one shows old stuff if it’s currently popular. Which I’d assume is what you’d want.

There’s nothing is even consider watching on the “Fair trending” one; I can see myself watching one or two things off the YouTube one if I was very bored.

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Though it seems to be a different list of clickbaity garbage from https://m.youtube.com/feed/trending which is sort of interesting.

I’m reasonably sure the YouTube one shows old stuff if it’s currently popular. Which I’d assume is what you’d want. There’s nothing is even consider watching on the “Fair trending” one; I can see myself watching one or two things off the YouTube one if I was very bored.

I used the filter on the site and I watched a view of these videos https://www.fairtrending.com/?lang=en&fc=cat&cat=28&tag=&msc...

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post #14

The default feed is pretty clickbaity but I filtered to only show the technology category and it's not terrible https://www.fairtrending.com/?lang=en&fc=cat&cat=28&tag=&msc...

That still looks fairly terrible. I think I prefer Google’s approach...

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I think it's funny during Christmas and Easter, thousands of sermons and positive Christian videos are posted to YouTube but do not warrant a special response from Google, despite Christians being a large user base. Google is of course free to do as they wish with their platform and promote whatever they want, it's their choice and they own it. What I dislike is they advertise it as sort of free speech platform but r…

If you watch lots of Christian stuff, YouTube will absolutely suggest more of it to you.

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I was not expecting the truth to be SO much worse than the algorithmically provided view. I'm sold on algorithmic timelines now. That Youtube is awful. People are awful. Fortnite Battle Royale is awful. I don't want to see any of those.

Shows how low quality society is now.

Re: Fair Trending: Objectively-Ranked Trending YouTube Videos

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I was not expecting the truth to be SO much worse than the algorithmically provided view. I'm sold on algorithmic timelines now. That Youtube is awful. People are awful. Fortnite Battle Royale is awful. I don't want to see any of those.

What I hate about the algorithm is that I feel it’s constantly nudging me towards “that” youtube. It feels like someone pulling on your sleeve and saying, “You know how you watched five minutes of the Cyberpunk 2077 trailer? Maybe you’d like a dozen recommendations of GG conspiracy material and tweens screaming at FortNite? And hey, remember that time you watched a living historian cook a meal from the 1800’s? Well, here’s some dude trying to eat a dozen hot wings. You like food stuff right? RIGHT?!”

It’s still better than the pure vomit on this fair site, but it could be soooooop much better if it didn’t try to maximize engagement as the primary goal.

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