iOS 12 released • Hacker News Board

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by ivraatiems » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 6:13 PM UTC

artimaeis wrote: post #18

ivraatiems wrote: post #13

I'm still on iOS 10 on my iPhone SE. Why should I upgrade? Even if there was a convincing reason to, I'm afraid performance will tank, as it often does on older iPhones getting their last update.

Security updates and significant speed improvements are sufficient reason to upgrade, I'd think. Siri Shortcuts is also a pretty incredible feature if you're a power-user.

Security updates are probably the most compelling reason.

I'm extremely skeptical of claimed speed improvements. Are there third party benchmarks? Are these improvements over iOS 11, or iOS 10? iOS 11 was an absolute horror show from that and many other aspects.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 6:14 PM UTC

ivraatiems wrote: post #21

artimaeis wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Security updates and significant speed improvements are sufficient reason to upgrade, I'd think. Siri Shortcuts is also a pretty incredible feature if you're a power-user.

Security updates are probably the most compelling reason. I'm extremely skeptical of claimed speed improvements. Are there third party benchmarks? Are these improvements over iOS 11, or iOS 10? iOS 11 was an absolute horror show from that and many other aspects.

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Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by ivraatiems » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 6:15 PM UTC

adpirz wrote: post #14

ivraatiems wrote: post #13

I'm still on iOS 10 on my iPhone SE. Why should I upgrade? Even if there was a convincing reason to, I'm afraid performance will tank, as it often does on older iPhones getting their last update.

"iOS 12 on the iPhone 5S, iPhone 6 Plus, and iPad Mini 2: It’s actually faster!" https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/ios-12-on-the-iphone...

This is persuasive, but I wonder why they didn't test the SE. Maybe because the 5S is older but quite similar/appeals to the same market?

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by tcfunk » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 6:16 PM UTC

ivraatiems wrote: post #13

I'm still on iOS 10 on my iPhone SE. Why should I upgrade? Even if there was a convincing reason to, I'm afraid performance will tank, as it often does on older iPhones getting their last update.

Yeah I'm hoping 12 delivers on the performance improvements it is promising. iOS 11 all but bricked my 6 plus.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by corobo » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 6:16 PM UTC

ivraatiems wrote: post #13

I'm still on iOS 10 on my iPhone SE. Why should I upgrade? Even if there was a convincing reason to, I'm afraid performance will tank, as it often does on older iPhones getting their last update.

Well just the other day there was a bug that causes iOS to restart if a webpage is structured in a particular way

Edit for more information: I've been using iOS 12 on my SE for a while (beta) and while in all honesty I've not really found anything particularly great, more importantly I've not had any non-beta-related issues - slowdowns or otherwise

I am looking forward to playing with shortcuts, but have yet to

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by kyrra » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 6:17 PM UTC

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

Though I believe Apple bowed to China to give them access to Chinese citizen's iCloud data. But you can operate an iPhone without iCloud fairly easily, which is definitely nice. Doing more on-device helps them here.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587304/apple-icloud-chi...

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by saagarjha » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 6:18 PM UTC

ivraatiems wrote: post #13

I'm still on iOS 10 on my iPhone SE. Why should I upgrade? Even if there was a convincing reason to, I'm afraid performance will tank, as it often does on older iPhones getting their last update.

iOS 12 will likely not be iPhone SE's last update, since iPhone 5S got the update this year. And iOS 12 specifically focuses on performance for older devices.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by donovanh » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 6:18 PM UTC

tcfunk wrote: post #24

ivraatiems wrote: post #13

I'm still on iOS 10 on my iPhone SE. Why should I upgrade? Even if there was a convincing reason to, I'm afraid performance will tank, as it often does on older iPhones getting their last update.

Yeah I'm hoping 12 delivers on the performance improvements it is promising. iOS 11 all but bricked my 6 plus.

Been using it for months on my 6 and it’s great

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by throwaway809484 » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 6:19 PM UTC

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

If I was in charge of Apple, I'd refresh the Mac Mini (it's embarrassing its sold with a 4th gen CPU). And slowly build private cloud capabilities.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by satysin » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 6:20 PM UTC

ivraatiems wrote: post #13

I'm still on iOS 10 on my iPhone SE. Why should I upgrade? Even if there was a convincing reason to, I'm afraid performance will tank, as it often does on older iPhones getting their last update.

It did wonders for my 5S and 6 Plus in terms of performance.

Edit: should clarify I have been running the beta and upgraded to the GM last night. Performance during the beta cycle and release version has been fantastic.