Seems pretty likely that YouTube will switch to EME at some point, doesn't it? Seems like record labels and the like would be demanding it.
When and if that happens, I hope PeerTube and other video hosts can take off in the fediverse.
YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry
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Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry
#22Or their outdated business modal is the biggest threat to their industry. Honestly, my thought on anything like this is 'just go bankrupt and be done with it'. Your business model clearly doesn't work anymore, you may as well just accept it and shut down. Then again, that's my opinion on basically every business complaining to the government about how the internet is taking away their profits/how competitors/startups…
Explain how it's an outdated business model? Content creator (musician, film studio) makes content. They must make money to recoup the costs of making said content so they can (at least) make more of the same content. Are you saying all musicians should just go back to only doing live shows and concerts and give up recording music altogether? This kind of comment just blatantly ignores the fact that there are very re…
The business model relies upon the scarcity of copies and that the copyright owner is the only person able to make copies. That was reasonable many years ago, but today copies can be made and published by anybody with a computer in milliseconds. The business model was overtaken by technology a long time ago, but instead of shifting to a different model, they rely upon the law enforcing a kind of Ludditism where we all pretend that this amazing copying and publishing technology doesn't exist for anybody but the copyright holders.
There are alternative business models – you mention live shows and concerts, but there's also things like the street performer protocol. But as long as the law artificially props up the old-fashioned way of doing things, there's no impetus to try other things. They aren't intrinsically entitled to this specific business model and it makes less and less sense to keep up this weird fiction for this reason.
Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry
#23Seems like they're always bitching about something. How about innovating, guys?
Innovation is what you need to do if people don’t want your product. Here, people clearly want the product, so how would innovation help?
Innovation takes many forms, sometimes in selling a product, sometimes in securing a product's exclusivity - such as DRM.
Look only as far as YouTube to see what content creators do when the money well dries up - a lot have turned to selling products/advertising themselves with direct deals (dollar shave club, Nord VPN, etc). Another method is through "merch", something Disney for example has been doing for years.
Besides, many Countries simply don't respect media copyright full-stop, it wouldn't harm creators to learn to hustle for other (potentially wider) markets.
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#24This doesn't make any sense to me.
My impression is that listening to locally stored mp3 files is becoming less and less common in favor of streaming music services.
Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry
#25Seems pretty likely that YouTube will switch to EME at some point, doesn't it? Seems like record labels and the like would be demanding it. When and if that happens, I hope PeerTube and other video hosts can take off in the fediverse.
EME can be cracked if it isn’t already.
Anything can be cracked. The only way to not get your content copied is to not give it to the user in the first place. If the user can see/hear the content then he can also copy it.
Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry
#26You can have my youtube-dl when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
I was just thinking "nobody tell them about youtube-dl"! I wouldn't be surprised if half of these YouTube-to-MP3 sites are using it in the background - why wouldn't they? Should be pretty easy to containerize the program. I actually wonder sometimes how they are able to provide these conversions given progressions in ad-blockers. There is absolutely no way to stop pirating. Long before the internet was fast enough (o…
I don't think they need to stop pirating so much as hassle people pirating sufficiently that a decent percentage still pay up.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be completely honest, I can't really tell the difference between a high bit rate MP3 and a WAV file. For videos I can see the value though, anything below 720 is quite obvious.
YouTube audio isn't high quality though... I think it's 128k
This is the correct answer. You can hear the compression when cymbals are ringing out in a song quite clearly
Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry
#28The biggest piracy threat to the music industry is my sound card. I can record any sound that comes out of the speakers.
Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry
#29This doesn't make any sense to me. My impression is that listening to locally stored mp3 files is becoming less and less common in favor of streaming music services.
Streaming music services does not have that obscure songs one might like, some remixes, not every country has universal internet coverage and not everyone likes to waste dataplans on music etc. etc.
Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry
#30The biggest piracy threat to the music industry is my sound card. I can record any sound that comes out of the speakers.
Don't say it too loud or they'll replace your ports with some fancy DRM safe stuff.