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Re: Unsupervised machine translation

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All of this seems to be using word embeddings, but most languages don't have all that many words. You're effectively trying to train with just a few thousand data points, and will quickly overfit.

Wouldn't the method work better with n-gram embeddings, where n=3 or 4?

Re: Unsupervised machine translation

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The previous paper they mention explains the core insight that makes unsupervised translation possible: https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.04087 The original paper didn't receive the attention I thought it would, but I continue to think this is a fascinating result which has deep implications for machine learning and for linguistics.

This is genius: https://imgur.com/a/1aRZ3sI Normally this technique wouldn't be useful, because it's overfitting a specific training set. (If you make space X as similar as possible to space Y, then this mapping from X to Y is only useful for X to Y – it can't generalize to other situations, which is often the goal of an ML model.) But since the task is "Translate from English to Italian," and since all languages hav…

Splitting the time series data into training and test datasets by making a single cut is not some artistry or epiphany following years of research. It is common sense if you work in time series domain.

Re: Unsupervised machine translation

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All of this seems to be using word embeddings, but most languages don't have all that many words. You're effectively trying to train with just a few thousand data points, and will quickly overfit. Wouldn't the method work better with n-gram embeddings, where n=3 or 4?

The method is straightforward to extend to n-grams, this is actually what they do (see table 1 in https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.07755).

And since you are simply learning a rotation matrix, there is no risk of overfitting.

Re: Unsupervised machine translation

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How does it learn idioms (sequences of words that make no sense when translated into another language word-for-word). For example "Stop beating around the bush!" would result in complete nonsense if translated into any language other than English.

Re: Unsupervised machine translation

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Looks like promising research. I will have to read the actual paper later as opposed to just the blog post. One thing I would like to say is my qualm with the obsession with unsupervised learning as the quintessential technique. Unsupervised != no human input. Having the benefit of knowing about word embeddings is something inherently built into this system by the human designers and something that supervised learnin…

> One thing I would like to say is my qualm with the obsession with unsupervised learning as the quintessential technique. Unsupervised != no human input. I'm not sure I follow the qualm you are trying to get across. Are you saying you disagree with the term 'unsupervised' because unsupervised algorithms still bake in human assumptions (like a human-designed word embedding model) so that's essentially still supervisi…

No need to apologize, I like HN precisely because people point out the flaws/confusing parts of my comments/opinions. I agree with everything you say and am happy you said it because this is how unsupervised learning should be viewed. I.e., a better ROI in specific cases. However, I have seen too often the "cake of AI" where the batter is unsupervised, the icing is supervised, and the cherry on top is reinforcement learning. Somehow, this image connotes that unsupervised is at the core of AI and also the most important. For what is a cake consisting of only icing and a cherry?

Where I disagree with you is that the obsession is purely driven from "results-per-dollar-invested", at least in the academic world. That being said, unsupervised learning is a great tool and definitely worthy of research.

To summarize, my comment was completely tangential of this paper (the authors make no such claims). It was more of a stream of consciousness comment that arose because I envisioned someone reading the paper and saying "see!, unsupervised learning leads to real understanding, no humans needed!"

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