At a rate of 0-3 mm/year or 1 foot/century its going to be hard to convince anyone to care about the sea level. https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends.html
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Re: Miami Will Be Underwater Soon. Its Drinking Water Could Go First
#22I’ve never understood how the parts of the country most affected by sea level rise have been so vociferously against it being real. When the BP spill happened and they had all the local mayors and politicians crying about the damage to their coast, I couldn’t understand why no one had the cajones to ask them why they cared so much about their coast being damaged now, when they were completely fine with it being gone…
I think there's been a brain drain happening in a lot of red states in recent decades. The educated people who have the ability and will to leave often do, leaving behind an increasingly ignorant population. It's coincidental that this same geographic region will be most affected by sea level rise, although nowhere on earth will be immune to the effects of climate change.
Re: Miami Will Be Underwater Soon. Its Drinking Water Could Go First
#23I’ve never understood how the parts of the country most affected by sea level rise have been so vociferously against it being real. When the BP spill happened and they had all the local mayors and politicians crying about the damage to their coast, I couldn’t understand why no one had the cajones to ask them why they cared so much about their coast being damaged now, when they were completely fine with it being gone…
Because there’s been a huge and dedicated propaganda machine to saying the opposite. And it’s worked.
Re: Miami Will Be Underwater Soon. Its Drinking Water Could Go First
#24Now, now, let's focus on the positives here:
- more pollution from shipping routes through the Arctic circle (and yucky-looking icebergs that tourists don't like)
- less beachfront property
- more desalinatable water
- hotter heat
- more revulsive detestable significant others (displaced global unrest)
- costs of responding to natural disasters occurring with greater frequency due to elevated ocean temperatures
- less parking spaces (!)
What are the other costs and benefits here?
Re: Miami Will Be Underwater Soon. Its Drinking Water Could Go First
#25Start worrying when the banks stop offering mortgages to people trying to buy property in south beach. I remember when Katrina flooded New Orleans, lots of people were asking why rebuild the city when it almost certainly will flood like that again. And the answer was a simple, do you know how much it would cost to relocate everyone? What does it do to the economy when almost everyones largest asset(their house) is wo…
> They would get some government assistence with the condition that this was the first and only time that the governmnet would help. We'll see how well that holds up next time those people need assistance. Somehow I don't see any elected politician telling his voters "sorry, we already helped you".
Right. Intending to break a bad habit carries no weight. Actually doing it is what counts. The government's action here wasn't smart: it was in fact cowardly.
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#26Part of the problem here is exacerbated by all the flood insurance that effectively subsidizes building in flood plains. In addition to long term measures to mitigate climate change, we should have a tax on areas that are threatened by flooding and water levels rising so that we can reduce the immediate issues by incentivizing people to move away from them.
I'm not sure how insurance is a subsidy. Doesn't the cost get spread between insurees and the insurance company takes the foam off the top for itself?
Not for flood insurance. There's no profit in it. The National Flood Insurance Program is a federally-subsidized program that loses about a billion dollars a year.
Re: Miami Will Be Underwater Soon. Its Drinking Water Could Go First
#27I’ve never understood how the parts of the country most affected by sea level rise have been so vociferously against it being real. When the BP spill happened and they had all the local mayors and politicians crying about the damage to their coast, I couldn’t understand why no one had the cajones to ask them why they cared so much about their coast being damaged now, when they were completely fine with it being gone…
I think there's been a brain drain happening in a lot of red states in recent decades. The educated people who have the ability and will to leave often do, leaving behind an increasingly ignorant population. It's coincidental that this same geographic region will be most affected by sea level rise, although nowhere on earth will be immune to the effects of climate change.
Do you have any evidence for this claim?
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#28> One morning in June, Douglas Yoder climbed into a white government SUV... This again. I won't stop complaining about this tedious journalistic style until it finally dies. I don't want to hear a personal story of a random person that's related to the issue in some way. I certainly don't want to read anything about how he spends his day - I value my own day too much for that. I just want to read about the issue itse…
Bloomberg writers definitely overuse this hook, but long-reads are more narrative-focused, so it totally makes sense to introduce the issue this way — just not every time.
Re: Miami Will Be Underwater Soon. Its Drinking Water Could Go First
#29I’ve never understood how the parts of the country most affected by sea level rise have been so vociferously against it being real. When the BP spill happened and they had all the local mayors and politicians crying about the damage to their coast, I couldn’t understand why no one had the cajones to ask them why they cared so much about their coast being damaged now, when they were completely fine with it being gone…
Your premise is incorrect. The parts of the country most affected are the coasts--and they are blue.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think there's been a brain drain happening in a lot of red states in recent decades. The educated people who have the ability and will to leave often do, leaving behind an increasingly ignorant population. It's coincidental that this same geographic region will be most affected by sea level rise, although nowhere on earth will be immune to the effects of climate change.
Do you have any evidence for this claim?
His own smug sense of superiority should suffice.