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Re: BBC websites blocked in China after security change

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post #13

"We've seen cases outside the UK, with some of our World Service sites where foreign governments have tried to [track which articles and videos you're looking at or selectively suppress individual pieces of content]." Is there any more information about such instances or is that insider knowledge?

You don't have to look outside the UK for that.

Re: BBC websites blocked in China after security change

#22
post #12

Haha, this sentence: « It has altered all of its addresses from beginning "HTTP" to "HTTPS", which is widely considered to be a more secure connection » Widely considered, I love it.

And, widely considered, I believe that being banned by the Great Firewall is a badge of honor.

Re: BBC websites blocked in China after security change

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Widely considered, I love it. Didn't get this. Any technical issues/anecdote to make this more interesting?

Well, HTTP has zero security, and HTTPS has this big complicated security mechanism (TLS) that tries to ensure no one can snoop on your connection, alter the content, or pretend to be a server they aren't. There's no subjectivity at stake, here: One is designed without security, the other is designed with security. It's like saying the Atacama Desert is widely considered to be drier than a thunderstorm.

Having never tried Atacama Desert, I am going to guess it's like other desserts like trifle and mousse, which are in fact rather soggy.

Re: BBC websites blocked in China after security change

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Widely considered, I love it. Didn't get this. Any technical issues/anecdote to make this more interesting?

Well, HTTP has zero security, and HTTPS has this big complicated security mechanism (TLS) that tries to ensure no one can snoop on your connection, alter the content, or pretend to be a server they aren't. There's no subjectivity at stake, here: One is designed without security, the other is designed with security. It's like saying the Atacama Desert is widely considered to be drier than a thunderstorm.

I am not sure if you considered the intended audience of the article at all.

But if you think about that, the statement is about as good as it can be.

Re: BBC websites blocked in China after security change

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Widely considered, I love it. Didn't get this. Any technical issues/anecdote to make this more interesting?

Well, HTTP has zero security, and HTTPS has this big complicated security mechanism (TLS) that tries to ensure no one can snoop on your connection, alter the content, or pretend to be a server they aren't. There's no subjectivity at stake, here: One is designed without security, the other is designed with security. It's like saying the Atacama Desert is widely considered to be drier than a thunderstorm.

but https against the great firewall (and its connection with state run dns/cert roots) is nothing but a nuisance.

Re: BBC websites blocked in China after security change

#29
post #19

Interestingly, the screencap that's the hero image for TFA includes a comparison between a picture of Xi and Obama and a picture of Winnie the Pooh and Tigger. The Xi => Pooh comparison is (to my understanding) a common one in China, and one the Party tries to suppress.

The latest Winnie The Pooh movie (containing nothing offensive, suitable for children) has of course been banned in China.

I find it amazing how very powerful people can end up with such delicate egos. Here in the West we mock leaders all the time and it rarely undermines their authority.

Re: BBC websites blocked in China after security change

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post #28
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, HTTP has zero security, and HTTPS has this big complicated security mechanism (TLS) that tries to ensure no one can snoop on your connection, alter the content, or pretend to be a server they aren't. There's no subjectivity at stake, here: One is designed without security, the other is designed with security. It's like saying the Atacama Desert is widely considered to be drier than a thunderstorm.

but https against the great firewall (and its connection with state run dns/cert roots) is nothing but a nuisance.

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