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Bloody hell, this processor has more cores than the dual socket Xeon HPCs that my lab bought 2 years ago. Amazing. Honest question: Isn't the memory throughput an issue when you try to feed 32 hungry processors?
That TR 1900X SKU looks like an Intel killer for its target audience.
Bloody hell, this processor has more cores than the dual socket Xeon HPCs that my lab bought 2 years ago. Amazing. Honest question: Isn't the memory throughput an issue when you try to feed 32 hungry processors?
Ultimately it depends on how cache friendly your workload is.
The 32c/64t is kind of a marketting gimmick selling binned Eypcs. If your doing memory bound HPC consider the 16c/32t model for roughly equal performance at a lower price.
Bloody hell, this processor has more cores than the dual socket Xeon HPCs that my lab bought 2 years ago. Amazing. Honest question: Isn't the memory throughput an issue when you try to feed 32 hungry processors?
That pricing is actually more reasonable than I was expecting. I might get myself a 32 core quad GPU workstation. Unthinkable even just a year ago.
Good god! Why on earth you need 32 core quad GPU workstation?
Given Intel's struggles around their process shrink, AMD may have come up with the perfect product at the perfect time. You can already see their effect with Intel finally adding more cores to their chips to try and stay competitive. I do think that Intel will manage to get silicon out a bit earlier then their current end of CY19, but if they don't, TR and Ryzen may be the default go-to for manufacturers.
It is time to give AMD a chance. Intel is plagued by problems with the 10nm process technology resulting in no significant innovation on their CPUs' performance or power consumption for over two years now. And just recently they pushed their 10nm products even further back to the second half of 2019. AMD might have the first 7nm CPUs out by then. Of course process technologies are not easily comparable between fabs b…
The difference between 14nm and 14nm+++ is pretty close to a full node step...
> And just recently they pushed their 10nm products even further back to the second half of 2019. AMD might have the first 7nm CPUs out by then. Of course process technologies are not easily comparable between fabs but it is still crazy to see Intel starting to fall behind in process technology - a game they dominated for decades.
The numbers used for process 'sizes' don't really hold any meaning anymore and can't be directly compared. Intel's 14nm is 'better' in almost every metric than other fabs 10nm process. Intel's 10nm process is expected to be similarly comparable to other fabs 7nm.
Intel isn't really behind on process tech, but the competition has closed the gap considerably.
Given Intel's struggles around their process shrink, AMD may have come up with the perfect product at the perfect time. You can already see their effect with Intel finally adding more cores to their chips to try and stay competitive. I do think that Intel will manage to get silicon out a bit earlier then their current end of CY19, but if they don't, TR and Ryzen may be the default go-to for manufacturers.
Yes -- AMD got lucky, this time. I sincerely doubt they (or anyone else) had any idea how Intel will struggle with their 10nm when they started on Zen in 2012. Back in 2013 Intel said they will have Cannon Lake out in 2015 (!) https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/16/intel_10nm_14nm_pla... and today, mid 2018, the only released Cannon Lake CPU is a sad little dual core with the graphics chip disabled ( i3-8121U) selling in "very limited quantities".
65nm: 2006
45nm: 2007
32nm: 2010
22nm: 2012
14nm: 2014
10nm: 2019 (?)
I'll give them a call when I need a heater.
For now I think I'll stick with my power saving Intel CPU.
I'm very excited for AMD and their market successes lately. I never wanted a world controlled by Intel, and even if all my computers are Intel at the moment I feel the world benefits from this competition. That being said... Processor pre-orders? I had No idea that was a thing. Hope you get a QA discount. It doesn't talk about sockets but for sake of preorderers I hope it's compatible with original threadripper board…
Pre-orders don't make sense in the case of downloadable games, where there is no scarcity.