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Re: Evolving Floorplans

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I've been in a few apartments that had novelty floor plans without right angles. All of them were terrible. Granted I have not been in one owned by somebody rich or skilled enough to only have custom made furniture.

I’d be curious to see the effect on airflow, though. I’d gladly pay for custom furniture if the design of the house meant never sitting in a cloud of my own CO2 (without any need for fored-air ventilation like in airplanes/submarines/bunkers.)

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Re: Evolving Floorplans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> building costs beyond just material use Yep. The "optimized" floorplans would be an order of magnitude more expensive to build than the original. I mean, drywall alone would take a lot more time with all the cuts, mudding and sanding more joints. The thought of framing out these walls makes my head hurt.

But would it still cost more if the building were made of prefab-stamped “IKEA pieces”, rather than stick-built? I.e., if you had to build the house 100 times (for a townhouse development, say), and so “factored out” the assembly of the framing and drywall and etc. for each curve and corner, would the labor costs then approach equivalence?

No, because those joints still need to be created somewhere in the process. It might be cheaper than the one-off build, but it wouldn't be cheaper compared to a more efficient design "factored out."

Re: Evolving Floorplans

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I love this. It makes me believe that our sci-fi future might be more in line with the Timeless Way of Building than with cinderblock utilitarianism. I too would love to see a 3D environment built from these, so we could get a feel for them.

I'd like to apply ML to individual and group behavior in a building (biometrics, activity, location, laughter, concentration) and create a built environment that satisfies unconscious preferences for both static and dynamic uses. The best possible terrarium for humans.

Re: Evolving Floorplans

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I love this. It makes me believe that our sci-fi future might be more in line with the Timeless Way of Building than with cinderblock utilitarianism. I too would love to see a 3D environment built from these, so we could get a feel for them.

Did you miss the part about "light on two sides of every room"? These evolved designs seem optimised for nothing that actually matters to human comfort.

I took this as an initial exploration of genetic algorithms for architecture. As such, the idea is more interesting than the specific parameters and weights chosen here.

You'll notice as you scroll down that this article _does_ vary the parameters and weights. For instance, the one that optimizes for windows tends to create interior courtyards.

I could imagine adding parameters and weights for thresholds, areas for crafts, light on two sides of rooms, rectilinearity, water shedding, etc. etc. etc.

But I love the idea that what comes out the other end is wildly weird and yet functional, and feels organic and nest-like rather than square.

Re: Evolving Floorplans

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I love this. It makes me believe that our sci-fi future might be more in line with the Timeless Way of Building than with cinderblock utilitarianism. I too would love to see a 3D environment built from these, so we could get a feel for them.

Did you miss the part about "light on two sides of every room"? These evolved designs seem optimised for nothing that actually matters to human comfort.

It is a PoC, I think a lot of folks are being overly critical of the outcome and not focusing on the technique.

Re: Evolving Floorplans

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post #6

I love this. It makes me believe that our sci-fi future might be more in line with the Timeless Way of Building than with cinderblock utilitarianism. I too would love to see a 3D environment built from these, so we could get a feel for them.

'cinderblock utilitarianism' is exactly in-line with _The Timeless Way of Building_. Four square walls and a peaked roof? Job done for the next 300 years.

Mea culpa. I think I was using “The Timeless Way of Building” as shorthand for “Pattern Language”. Or at least, I was thinking of the list of desirable properties rather than the method of construction.

Of course, if you designed and built such a thing all at once using a giant 3D printer, I guess you'd be building in an entirely new way, which would be completely different :-)

Re: Evolving Floorplans

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post #18
post #8

I've been in a few apartments that had novelty floor plans without right angles. All of them were terrible. Granted I have not been in one owned by somebody rich or skilled enough to only have custom made furniture.

I’d be curious to see the effect on airflow, though. I’d gladly pay for custom furniture if the design of the house meant never sitting in a cloud of my own CO2 (without any need for fored-air ventilation like in airplanes/submarines/bunkers.)

I think it would be really cool to be able to have a Feng Shui toggle on the weights and measures of this layout algo...

Re: Evolving Floorplans

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post #24
post #6

I love this. It makes me believe that our sci-fi future might be more in line with the Timeless Way of Building than with cinderblock utilitarianism. I too would love to see a 3D environment built from these, so we could get a feel for them.

I'd like to apply ML to individual and group behavior in a building (biometrics, activity, location, laughter, concentration) and create a built environment that satisfies unconscious preferences for both static and dynamic uses. The best possible terrarium for humans.

“The best possible terrarium for humans” — I love that. All watched over by machines of loving grace, I presume :-)
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