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Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

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Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#21

Does this seem a little like bit of gov't overreach? They're saying a business can't provide food to their employees? Am I missing something?

Certainly sounds very strange the government has the right to tax it as a benefit in kind - but I am sure that would be subject of a lot of litigation.

IT also could be argued to be a forced breach of contract as custom and practice is …

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

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post #17

I'm sorry but this is so f*cking stupid. As a Bay Area resident my priorities are the cost of housing, cleaning our dirty streets and alleviating traffic congestion. This is an example of progressivism gone awry. Solving the basics is incredibly important. Our quality of life is in decline (in the bay area) and this is the best our politicians can do? I'm enraged.

Your municipality does not have the legal or financial mechanisms to solve homelessness, housing, and traffic congestion. They are all natural consequences of economic and political decisions made higher up the food chain.

Yet they keep raising taxes?

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

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post #3

This can definitely help support local business. But seems unfair to lower-salary employees. As an employee who used to have free lunch and now doesn't, I have felt the financial effects. Dining out truly can make a big impact on the wallet- $10 dollars per meal (unlikely in Mountain View unless fast food) x 5 meals a week x 48 weeks a year (let's be generous and assume you get that much PTO) = $2,400 annually Compan…

There's nothing stopping the companies from providing a dine-out per diem if they choose to. They could for example form relationships with local eateries to subsidize those meals either in full or through discounts, which would support the local economy but also provide that benefit to employees. But of course it's cheaper for them if they control the entire operation.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#25

Does this seem a little like bit of gov't overreach? They're saying a business can't provide food to their employees? Am I missing something?

Yeah its pretty crazy. I expect the city to get sued over it.

Or the companies bank role a motion to remove cafeterias from all state facilities.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

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post #13
post #3

This can definitely help support local business. But seems unfair to lower-salary employees. As an employee who used to have free lunch and now doesn't, I have felt the financial effects. Dining out truly can make a big impact on the wallet- $10 dollars per meal (unlikely in Mountain View unless fast food) x 5 meals a week x 48 weeks a year (let's be generous and assume you get that much PTO) = $2,400 annually Compan…

Everywhere I've ever worked, >90% of people bring their meals to work >90% of the time. This sounds like another of those special microcosm "problems".

Where have you worked?

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#27
They could offer meal tickets similar to Vivint: https://savvorysoles.wordpress.com/2016/04/02/vivint-food-ti...

It's a free meal at the office, but if you want to go out they made deals with most of the local restaurants where it gives the employee $5 off

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#28
post #5

This might be a great idea in theory, but terrible execution. By having this only apply prospectively, it makes every new business have to compete with businesses that can offer free meals on campus.

I think it's a terrible idea in theory. In practice it probably won't be as bad as companies find loopholes and exceptions. (For example, is having food delivered a cafeteria?)

Still, companies should be able to decide what they want to offer their workers.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#29
post #17

I'm sorry but this is so f*cking stupid. As a Bay Area resident my priorities are the cost of housing, cleaning our dirty streets and alleviating traffic congestion. This is an example of progressivism gone awry. Solving the basics is incredibly important. Our quality of life is in decline (in the bay area) and this is the best our politicians can do? I'm enraged.

Your municipality does not have the legal or financial mechanisms to solve homelessness, housing, and traffic congestion. They are all natural consequences of economic and political decisions made higher up the food chain.

Sum that point of view across an entire population and we have the problems we have today.

Your perspective bores me.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#30
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your municipality does not have the legal or financial mechanisms to solve homelessness, housing, and traffic congestion. They are all natural consequences of economic and political decisions made higher up the food chain.

Sum that point of view across an entire population and we have the problems we have today. Your perspective bores me.

What baffles me is the perspective that: "Because can't fix these problems, everything that does is stupid and useless."
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