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Microsoft reveals first known midterm campaign hacking attempts

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Re: Microsoft reveals first known midterm campaign hacking attempts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not my response to every bit of news, but this article is about as content free as it gets. A bit of substantiation would go a long way towards covering the 'reveal' in the title, as it is not much of anything is revealed.

This is where it comes from: https://youtu.be/NlCJokZcwJA?t=15m24s (Starts at 15m 24s)

Good find, thank you. That contains a ton of information that would have made the article a lot more useful.

Re: Microsoft reveals first known midterm campaign hacking attempts

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I know this is about congressional campaigns, but does anyone remember this from 2008? https://www.theguardian.com/global/2008/nov/07/obama-white-h... I wonder why that never reached the same amount of outcry when Obama won.

They are completely different scenarios. There wasn't ample evidence of who was doing it (not publicly available at least) and there wasn't one candidate who particularly benefited from the attack (that we know of). People start becoming concerned when a visible impact from the hacking starts to occur. If nothing was released from the DNC hack in 2016, then I'm guessing there would have been less outrage about Russian interference.

Re: Microsoft reveals first known midterm campaign hacking attempts

#23

I know this is about congressional campaigns, but does anyone remember this from 2008? https://www.theguardian.com/global/2008/nov/07/obama-white-h... I wonder why that never reached the same amount of outcry when Obama won.

I really don't understand how you can say this with a straight face.

In 2008 there was no evidence that any foreign government was trying to usurp the democratic process in the way the last election was. And Obama/McCain and their campaigns didn't have dozens/hundreds of interactions with Russian actors. And they definitely didn't owe hundreds of millions to Russian oligarchs.

Re: Microsoft reveals first known midterm campaign hacking attempts

#24

I know this is about congressional campaigns, but does anyone remember this from 2008? https://www.theguardian.com/global/2008/nov/07/obama-white-h... I wonder why that never reached the same amount of outcry when Obama won.

I don't know, but I can speculate. For example, there is no evidence I'm aware of that the hacks were politically motivated or that the results of the hacks were used to assist one candidate or hinder another.

Re: Microsoft reveals first known midterm campaign hacking attempts

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I know this is about congressional campaigns, but does anyone remember this from 2008? https://www.theguardian.com/global/2008/nov/07/obama-white-h... I wonder why that never reached the same amount of outcry when Obama won.

Or this from 2004: http://freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1318

Re: Microsoft reveals first known midterm campaign hacking attempts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know anybody who specializes professionally in phishing that believes this. What I hear from those kinds of people, and many others, is the opposite: that especially when you're trying to secure an organization, the one attack you feel helpless to prevent is targeted phishing. Technologists in particular are apparently easy to victimize; they underestimate how malleable the medium is, and how well sophisticat…

Right, which is why the press should specify phishing here, and boost awareness for this particular threat, rather than ambiguous 'hacking'.

Awareness is good, but I object to the notion that it is "largely avoidable", and that all we're lacking is some awareness training.

Re: Microsoft reveals first known midterm campaign hacking attempts

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I know this is about congressional campaigns, but does anyone remember this from 2008? https://www.theguardian.com/global/2008/nov/07/obama-white-h... I wonder why that never reached the same amount of outcry when Obama won.

> I wonder why that never reached the same amount of outcry when Obama won.

Because Obama won...

Re: Microsoft reveals first known midterm campaign hacking attempts

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I know this is about congressional campaigns, but does anyone remember this from 2008? https://www.theguardian.com/global/2008/nov/07/obama-white-h... I wonder why that never reached the same amount of outcry when Obama won.

"Hackers broke into the computer systems of the Barack Obama and John McCain campaign teams during the US presidential race and stole a ''serious amount of files" in an operation that US government cyber experts believe originated from China." Probably because it wasnt one foreign hostile power directing attempting to sway one specific candidate. Or perhaps because there was no evidence or allegations against Obama o…

> it wasnt one foreign hostile power directing attempting to sway one specific candidate

Any idea where can I read more about the analysis around this determination?

Re: Microsoft reveals first known midterm campaign hacking attempts

#30

I know this is about congressional campaigns, but does anyone remember this from 2008? https://www.theguardian.com/global/2008/nov/07/obama-white-h... I wonder why that never reached the same amount of outcry when Obama won.

"Hackers broke into the computer systems of the Barack Obama and John McCain campaign teams during the US presidential race and stole a ''serious amount of files" in an operation that US government cyber experts believe originated from China." Probably because it wasnt one foreign hostile power directing attempting to sway one specific candidate. Or perhaps because there was no evidence or allegations against Obama o…

Also because Obama never encouraged or endorsed it.
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