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Why Didn’t America Become Part of the Modern World?

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Re: Why Didn’t America Become Part of the Modern World?

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This is one of the dumbest things I've read in a while. America practically created the modern world, in ways good (transportation, electronics, medicine) and bad (modern warfare). But sure, the fact that you dont like the president negates all of that. Still the wealthiest country in human history, and it's not close. Please just look, for one second, at how the poorest Americans compare to the rest of the world. It…

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Re: Why Didn’t America Become Part of the Modern World?

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post #5

This piece is very melodramatic, ignores huge pieces of US history, and the US's place in world history. No citations or references. Starts off relying on cherry picked headlines to set a biased tone that doesn't reflect reality for most US citizens.

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Re: Why Didn’t America Become Part of the Modern World?

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Poorly researched article, no citations and the numbers that are provided are grossly misleading. Ex: >40 million Americans live in poverty, while 50 million Mexicans do The Mexican poverty rate is $157/month and less in rural areas whereas US is over $1000/month. Even with that, the US poverty rate is 12.7% below the national poverty line whereas Mexico's is 42%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_Mexico https…

Those stats hide the fact you’re still looking at 10s of thousands and more living in poverty

Quantophrenia in action right here

Instead of thinking “but the stats aren’t so bad.”

Maybe consider “would I want to live a life of poverty?”

Plainly, no, I don’t

So pointing at a stat saying “oh but look...” changes the conversation from “a person is in the shit” to “I mean you know it’s not 100% of 300 million so no big”

Or at least that’s where Americans let it lie

Re: Why Didn’t America Become Part of the Modern World?

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post #11
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think it’s referring to immigration but rather the economic success associated with the American Dream- owning a house, a car and having a plan for retirement.

My statement still applies. The 1% owns more than the rest of society. That is a failed state.

How do you decide what level of wealth inequality is acceptable?

Re: Why Didn’t America Become Part of the Modern World?

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post #14

This is one of the dumbest things I've read in a while. America practically created the modern world, in ways good (transportation, electronics, medicine) and bad (modern warfare). But sure, the fact that you dont like the president negates all of that. Still the wealthiest country in human history, and it's not close. Please just look, for one second, at how the poorest Americans compare to the rest of the world. It…

“Practically created the modern world” is a vast exaggeration and sad you actually believe that.. European countries especially Britain and France developed many of the things that enabled modernisation of the world.

Re: Why Didn’t America Become Part of the Modern World?

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My statement still applies. The 1% owns more than the rest of society. That is a failed state.

How do you decide what level of wealth inequality is acceptable?

What a perfect society looks like is of course an incredibly hard question to answer. But not knowing the exact ideals does not discount our ability to recognize a bad state. We can move in a better direction, and yes, it's possible that we make a mistake in the other direction. But the chances of that happening are so laughable as to not even consider it.

Re: Why Didn’t America Become Part of the Modern World?

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The blog's author is British.

I'm not sure we've been that exceptionally good for awhile now. if ever. It's a story we grow up with, and tend to repeat, But i think the author has a reasonable assertion, and describes america pretty accurately. I look back at all the vitriole we would cast at peoples of foreign countries, and laugh at how beneath us they are. I suppose most countries feel that way about others, it's the age old iron-age in-group/…

I see this response got down voted, but no one has given evidence to it mistakes. Compare America to most of the other 'modern' countries. Look at the metrics: Poverty, Health care, Social values, Life expectancy, Jailing practices, Murder rates... on and on.... where are we exceptionally good?

Re: Why Didn’t America Become Part of the Modern World?

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The line is so long and non moving not because of these supposed line cutters, but because the people at the front of the line managing it are so slow and stingy processing the people in the line.

That could be part of it. If you are convinced by the Picketty idea where the rich have captured a greater part of the economy and rig the game in their favor (I am personally convinced by this) then you can see why things don't seem to be getting better for most Americans. But why do those same American's not focus their rage against the 1%? I think racism plays a role. And certainly, some members of the 1% stoke th…

>> But why do those same American's not focus their rage against the 1%

The %1 aren't stupid after all. They have done what they could to pit one group of poor people against another group of poor people. They have convinced a large group of poor white people that poor brown people are the cause of their problems, as if the most disadvantaged people in the country could possibly have any power over anyone. The power players in Washington have been doing this quasi-covertly for a long time, it's only in this latest term of presidency where the actions are explicit, obvious, overt and relentless.

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