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Imo stating "AfD is Nazi party 2.0" is very oversimplified. I agree there are some Nazi supporters there but most are people with anti illegal immigration views which doesn't mean they are Nazis.
Don't you know modern corporate globalism speak yet? If you think your nation should have borders = nazi.
> They are not accused of a crime but considered to be witnesses in a case... Wow, so the witnesses are treated like criminals now.
I disagree with your comparison to criminals. Gathering evidence for a case can be done at any place relevant to a case. It is sad to see that they confiscated materials owned by a witness, but within the bounds of "reason": they are a related party in said case. Please note: I do still, from what I read here, find this excessive use of power. A normal warrant with a request for data could very well have been enough,…
> They are not accused of a crime but considered to be witnesses in a case... Wow, so the witnesses are treated like criminals now.
I disagree with your comparison to criminals. Gathering evidence for a case can be done at any place relevant to a case. It is sad to see that they confiscated materials owned by a witness, but within the bounds of "reason": they are a related party in said case. Please note: I do still, from what I read here, find this excessive use of power. A normal warrant with a request for data could very well have been enough,…
So, in an effort to fight off/investigate a “far right” political organization (it doesn’t matter whether they are or aren’t), the police are using some scary tactics that one might expect from an extreme political party in power. Great work there. Way to be the change you want to see in the world.
It has more upvotes in less time than any other post on the front page. The top post has 35 upvotes in 2 hours.
This post is falling off the front page with 81 upvotes in less than an hour.
This is completely sketch.
Germans won't learn from their past. Watching "the lives of others" doesn't mean anything to them. "Security" forces always want to shadow/spy on anyong and anything "just in case". This is how Democracies fail. This is how humanity reverts to the age of "securitat". German has one of the most elaborate spying-on-its-own-citizens dragnet around the world. This sting operations are just to bully/frighten anyone who da…
Citation needed. The amount of surveillance in Germany is much lower than e.g. the USA or UK.
> They are not accused of a crime but considered to be witnesses in a case... Wow, so the witnesses are treated like criminals now.
So, in an effort to fight off/investigate a “far right” political organization (it doesn’t matter whether they are or aren’t), the police are using some scary tactics that one might expect from an extreme political party in power. Great work there. Way to be the change you want to see in the world.
You mixed it up, the bavarian police isn't fighting off/investigating AfD. Zwiebelfreunde (Friends of Onion) forwarded donations (!) from Germany into the US based RiseUp. Latter hosts a website calling for protests against the far right AfD.
If they were doing the same for the other side - i.e. funneling right wing money to support NAZI activist it would be the same kind of stupid.
If you don't want to get your servers to be raided just don't side-hustle as an extremist shaddow financier.
> They are not accused of a crime but considered to be witnesses in a case... Wow, so the witnesses are treated like criminals now.
I disagree with your comparison to criminals. Gathering evidence for a case can be done at any place relevant to a case. It is sad to see that they confiscated materials owned by a witness, but within the bounds of "reason": they are a related party in said case. Please note: I do still, from what I read here, find this excessive use of power. A normal warrant with a request for data could very well have been enough,…
This is the police. We have reason to believe you've witnessed a crime somewhere at some time.
Please willingly give us all of your electronics right now. Yes we know you need them for work, for living, and that they cost thousands of USD.
No we cant tell you when we'll give them back.
Thanks Politie
Why is this post sinking? Is someone at HN trying to censor this too like the Tesla stuff? It has more upvotes in less time than any other post on the front page. The top post has 35 upvotes in 2 hours. This post is falling off the front page with 81 upvotes in less than an hour. This is completely sketch.