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Google Removes Cookie Control from Chrome

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Re: Google Removes Cookie Control from Chrome

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Summary: "I noticed a bug in the latest Beta version of Chrome. I know Beta versions are 100% stable and never have bugs, though, so I assume this is some conspiracy by Google to ruin my life or something. Two more pages of whining about this."

I wish everyone contributed to open source projects, so they would know when to blog and when to file a bug report.

Re: Google Removes Cookie Control from Chrome

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This is how Chrome has worked since forever, and it's a good thing. Asking the user for confirmation for security updates leads directly to users running known-insecure versions of software. If you don't want auto-updates, use Chromium.

Imagine the howls if Microsoft had done this...

It's not about Google vs. Microsoft. The world has simply gotten smarter about such things, and most people now accept auto-update as a good idea.

Re: Google Removes Cookie Control from Chrome

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Of course you can (disclaimer edition note: but it's not necessarily for the faint of heart, and isn't officially supported. On their updater and update policy, Google manages to be worse than Apple on Windows, which is already pretty fucking bad). 1. On Windows and OSX (at least), the actual updating is performed by a single service running in the background for all Google applications (the Google Updater). This ser…

Ugh, of course, there are work-arounds. But if you re-read my comment, I said it is hardcoded in Chrome. I was talking about Chrome. Another point: Your method will disable all google updates (google toolbar, google talk etc) which is a good side effect imo but not necessarily desirable by all.

It's not hardcoded in Chrome, at least on Windows it's not. I'm currently running 4.1.249.1045, which I gather isn't particularly recent, because I seldom use it except for Facebook and other sites I don't trust to be logged in to for general browsing.

Re: Google Removes Cookie Control from Chrome

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Yes, that is a feature that Google has hardcoded into Chrome. You CANNOT disable auto-updates or even make it so that you are asked for confirmation.

Fortunately, the auto-update feature doesn't work on my Linux machines.

Chrome's auto-update feature on Debian-based distributions at least consists of it installing its apt repository in your sources.list. Which is fine by me.

Re: Google Removes Cookie Control from Chrome

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I agree it's questionable from a money standpoint, but not updating your browser is questionable from a self-preservation standpoint, as well. (But I also agree that should be your decision to make.) The compression Chrome uses on the diffs is pretty hardcore: http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/software... So you can at least be reasonably certain that your browsing bandwidth dwarfs the Chrome update…

I don't understand why they're taking that decision away from me. They could just enable auto update by default so most users would always be up-to-date unless they have a reason for disabling it. There are some good reasons other than money as well, such as privacy and security. I don't want my computer updated in any shape or form when I'm on an airport or in an authoritarian country for instance. I don't know whet…

Security-wise I'd be very surprised if Chrome updates weren't signed; MITMing of auto-updates isn't exactly new (see EvilGrade). So I doubt it's an issue there.

That said, I agree that there should be an option (not a prominent one) to switch it off.

Re: Google Removes Cookie Control from Chrome

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Ugh, of course, there are work-arounds. But if you re-read my comment, I said it is hardcoded in Chrome. I was talking about Chrome. Another point: Your method will disable all google updates (google toolbar, google talk etc) which is a good side effect imo but not necessarily desirable by all.

It's not hardcoded in Chrome, at least on Windows it's not. I'm currently running 4.1.249.1045, which I gather isn't particularly recent, because I seldom use it except for Facebook and other sites I don't trust to be logged in to for general browsing.

Please do check and tell if you have the Google Updater service running and that it is working fine?

Else, please tell how you managed to turn off automatic updates in Google Chrome?

Re: Google Removes Cookie Control from Chrome

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I'm starting to get the impression that Chrome is the browser for inept people, and that if you want good control over the browser behaviour, it's not a good choice. Chrome's responsiveness to public feedback is similar to Google's responsiveness, i.e. not responsive at all, and tends to authoritarianism.

My worry is that Firefox may take too much of a lead from it, and similarly start removing features.

Re: Google Removes Cookie Control from Chrome

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What about third party cookie control which is important? I barely use chrome but I know firefox has a toggle for this.

While I'm not familiar with which Firefox controls you are referencing, the following is a shot of the cookie+"X" and the impending modal for selecting 0..n cookies and site data to be allowed indefinitely or for this session alone: http://i.imgur.com/va1xW.png

Key thing is really to disallow third party cookies, as that (among other things) is what is being used to track you by all the advertisers, spammers, Facebookers and so on out there.

Re: Google Removes Cookie Control from Chrome

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I'm starting to get the impression that Chrome is the browser for inept people, and that if you want good control over the browser behaviour, it's not a good choice. Chrome's responsiveness to public feedback is similar to Google's responsiveness, i.e. not responsive at all, and tends to authoritarianism. My worry is that Firefox may take too much of a lead from it, and similarly start removing features.

Cookie management is kind of a tin-foil hat feature that is already served by Incognito mode. For the more technically inclined that really care, there are switches to turn on cookie management (and no doubt third party extensions)

Re: Google Removes Cookie Control from Chrome

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It's not hardcoded in Chrome, at least on Windows it's not. I'm currently running 4.1.249.1045, which I gather isn't particularly recent, because I seldom use it except for Facebook and other sites I don't trust to be logged in to for general browsing.

Please do check and tell if you have the Google Updater service running and that it is working fine? Else, please tell how you managed to turn off automatic updates in Google Chrome?

Google Updater is not running. I turned it off with Autoruns, like I said in my other comment.
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