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Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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It happens to trick current facial recognition systems looking for typical faces... but I imagine it would be well within the possibility to create a "juggalo" filter that simply adjusts the levels until the impact of the makeup is reduced enough to grab a face out of?

Per the article, if you instead rely on a depth map, makeup doesn't work. But it does prevent basic image recognition.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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More specifically: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition tech trained on normal faces and trying to recognize normal faces.

While the black and white paint does seem to negate a lot of natural contrast human faces have – and on which the recognition of faces is currently based – there seems a lot of information left to recognize specific faces, especially when considering stereovision or even possible pulsed laser reflection / LIDAR based solutions (think long-range iPhone X sensor).

Even if the recognition of an individual within a database of millions yields too many false positives, the set can be further refined by considering other subject metadata, say geolocation or social connections.

While considering this, it's still important to not succumb to privacy nihilism. Not everything is lost, but it's hard to practice that when 'beating' facial recognition tech means "looking like a fucking juggalo" [1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17452411

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Uhhhh, juggalos paint their face and it JUST SO HAPPENS that it beats face recognition sometimes. I assure you there was little to no intellectual effort on their part towards that end. Fucking magic. All in the motherfucking air.

Would you please stop posting like this and start following the guidelines?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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The title of this article seems to imply that face painting was intentionally used among Juggalos to deter computerized facial recognition - of course we know that's not the case. Though to be fair, somewhere in the history of the practice, it may be argued that it was to throw off human face-recognition. This reminds me of a sort of creative look into futuristic fashion I saw a bit ago: https://cvdazzle.com Where th…

The world is filled with people that figured out things accidentally because they were doing something else. For example, the person who figured out how to heat food with microwaves (and created the first microwave) didn't set out to do so, he discovered that the chocolate bar in his front pocket melted while working on magnetrons. "Figuring something out" doesn't imply concerted research towards that goal, accidenta…

I guess so, but it leaves a chemical taste in the mouth after taking the clickbait

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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The title of this article seems to imply that face painting was intentionally used among Juggalos to deter computerized facial recognition - of course we know that's not the case. Though to be fair, somewhere in the history of the practice, it may be argued that it was to throw off human face-recognition. This reminds me of a sort of creative look into futuristic fashion I saw a bit ago: https://cvdazzle.com Where th…

cvdazzle is explicitly mentioned in the article and is claimed to be less effective than Juggalo makeup.

In some cases, it said.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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post #10

Uhhhh, juggalos paint their face and it JUST SO HAPPENS that it beats face recognition sometimes. I assure you there was little to no intellectual effort on their part towards that end. Fucking magic. All in the motherfucking air.

Would you please stop posting like this and start following the guidelines? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I've never broken a guideline here.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Once this technique becomes more widespread, get ready for laws that make it illegal to fool facial recognition, similar to wearing masks, etc.

I would imagine there is a pretty strong first amendment case against such laws in the United States. Mask laws have been successfully challenged on those grounds (though sometimes the challenges have been unsuccessful).

Your bank will likely not let you in if you're wearing a hat or sunglasses.

"No shoes, no shirt, no service" has also been a thing for as long as convenience stores have been around.

Not that far of a stretch to think this will ultimately extend to face paint.

If you want true anonymity, just wear a motorcyle helmet everywhere. We still don't know who The Stig is.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would imagine there is a pretty strong first amendment case against such laws in the United States. Mask laws have been successfully challenged on those grounds (though sometimes the challenges have been unsuccessful).

Your bank will likely not let you in if you're wearing a hat or sunglasses. "No shoes, no shirt, no service" has also been a thing for as long as convenience stores have been around. Not that far of a stretch to think this will ultimately extend to face paint. If you want true anonymity, just wear a motorcyle helmet everywhere. We still don't know who The Stig is.

Sure, but your bank is a private institution, not the government.
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