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Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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Post by ondras »

downandout wrote: post #19
bausshf wrote: post #2

Sounds like a conference run by incompetent people, which is usually the vibe I get from glorified "javascript users". Definitely not a conference I'd ever attend. A conference for technology is usually supposed to be a social gathering for people with a shared interest, not a formal conference like a business gathering. The only thing I can't think of is that you submitted a lot of proposals and they perhaps thought…

It could be the number of proposals. I haven't seen his Twitter, but if he mentioned being a member of the "Brendan Eich fan club" on Twitter as he did on his blog, that may have also led to his being blocked. Brendan Eich was forced out of his role as CEO of Mozilla after a few vocal employees there found out he had donated $1,000 to support an anti-gay marriage bill in California many years before he was CEO. If th…

The "Brendan Eich club" is actually a small inside joke, as the sign was one of the official "features" of JSConf.eu 2011, where Brendan was an invited speaker :)

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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Post by palerno »

You either follow an account that has been banned, or the accounts you follow themselves follow accounts that have been banned. In the other direction, an account that follows you has been banned or they follow accounts that have been banned. @jsconfeu probably use some of the popular lists.

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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Post by amingilani »

michaelmrose wrote: post #11

What kind of people tell paying customers they are not worth the time required to answer a question?

Exactly. This whole episode reeks of unprofessionalism. Even if the author were in the wrong, he deserves a better reply than being told he's worthless.

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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Post by DanBC »

When you have an international group of people all speaking English as a second language the conversation can become a bit prickly.

There isn't anything obvious here - a bit of complaining but it all seems mild and accurate: https://twitter.com/search?l=&q=%40jsconfeu%20from%3A0ndras&...

Purely guessing here, you might want to avoid tweeting "Stupid fucking white man" at conference organisers. https://twitter.com/0ndras/status/960901913624576001 -- but this is just a guess. I have no idea if that's why they blocked you.

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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Post by jesperht »

DoubleGlazing wrote: post #13

Personally I'd walk away, life is too short to care about why a twitter user blocked you. But seeing as this is in the EU, the author could use the GDPR to find out why he was banned.

Out of curiosity, what part of the GDPR would require them to explain the ban-reason?

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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Post by bigiain »

methyl wrote: post #16
spraak wrote: post #5

I was wondering if it was accidental, but then the author did reach out to a few different sources and didn't receive an answer... which could still be coincidence, but makes it seem less likely.

> author didn't receive an answer He actually did: > Hi Ondrej, > dealing with this is at the bottom of our rather indefinitely long priority list. Don’t expect a swift resolution. > We’d appreciate not being bugged about this again. It seems they did it on purpose and they refuse to at least clarify why. My bet is that they did it for some childish reason and they don't have a courage to admit the mistake. I hope th…

Might not be "on purpose", OP might just be getting caught in some blocklist crossfire.

It happened in a very similar way for a different conference here: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/twi...

If they're in the middle of a Twitter dogpile, they probably wouldn't care too much about one particular guy on a blocklist if several hundred sockpuppet accounts organising on 4chan are all sending the same whining emails...

(They could have handled that email response more politely, but I can pretty easily imagine a situation where OP looks like part of the problem rather than collateral damage...)

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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Post by shevegen »

bausshf wrote: post #2

Sounds like a conference run by incompetent people, which is usually the vibe I get from glorified "javascript users". Definitely not a conference I'd ever attend. A conference for technology is usually supposed to be a social gathering for people with a shared interest, not a formal conference like a business gathering. The only thing I can't think of is that you submitted a lot of proposals and they perhaps thought…

> Perhaps they have small children's mentality

Many do - see selling your soul to evil or signing CoC agreements before being able to attend.

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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Post by topynate »

ondras wrote: post #21
downandout wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could be the number of proposals. I haven't seen his Twitter, but if he mentioned being a member of the "Brendan Eich fan club" on Twitter as he did on his blog, that may have also led to his being blocked. Brendan Eich was forced out of his role as CEO of Mozilla after a few vocal employees there found out he had donated $1,000 to support an anti-gay marriage bill in California many years before he was CEO. If th…

The "Brendan Eich club" is actually a small inside joke, as the sign was one of the official "features" of JSConf.eu 2011, where Brendan was an invited speaker :)

Yes, but that was seven years ago, and Things Are Different Now.

(Just leafed through their twitter. I'm seeing a lot of the same clique as were involved in the node.js brouhaha last year. Is this conference really worth the fuss?)

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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Post by sshine »

ondras wrote: post #7
doubletgl wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe someone misclicked. Headline is sensationalist, he could simply create a new twitter account. I don't see how this affects him attending the conference. Don't they send out email newsletters as well anyway?

Right, the ban only covers following the conference online. Which is why I mentioned the verb in the title. But it also might be their way of saying "also pls do not attend again, we do not want ya".

If you care about the content of the conference, and/or you like to talk with some of the recurring participants, you could go to the conference next time and confront the organizers directly, since they won't let you do it online.

But in terms of feeling rejected for unknown reasons, I'd let it slide. The reactions you describe (twitter blocking, "we don't have time to answer" emails) are immature, so expecting more from them is naive.

Since they haven't said "please don't attend again", don't interpret it that way. Don't reward people for communicating this poorly. If you can buy a ticket in your name, and you want to go, go. :-)

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